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Kreg joints creeping sideways.

7/19/15       
JP Member

I bought a kreg jig a few years ago. I used it for everything ( even scrap ).

I noticed when I would try to join two large pieces with just glue and pocket holes. Like cabinet bottoms and sides. That the panel with the pocket holes would get pulled over a bit. This drives me crazy.

I have clamped to the point (and past) of denting the wood. With the Kreg clamps that go down in the hole.

Last few projects I have used a festool domino for alignment and just used glue and regular woodscrews right through the non-show sides. Everything comes out right where I layed it out.

The Kreg screws would be faster if I could get them to work for me.

7/19/15       #2: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
dustin orth

Website: http://customwoodmontrose.com

If your Kreg Jig does not drill all the way thru the drilled piece, it will walk when you put a screw thru it. One option I used to do was keep a 6" x 3/16" drill bit and thru drilled at least the first hole, that way it would not walk around even when clamped. Try it once and see what you think. Might save some aggravation.

7/20/15       #3: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
JP Member

I really should have thought of that. Thanks.

I did have it adjusted once to drill all the way through the first piece and once in a while it would poke out the other side of the piece I was trying to join.
You know how plywood can vary quite a bit.

If you used to drill a hole what do you do now? Just curious.

7/20/15       #4: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
csaw

Website: http://www.hofmannjoinery.com

I had the same aggravation with Kreg. For what it's worth, a pretty innovative system on the market is Lamello P connectors. Self-aligning, self-clamping, don't have to be 100% on the money with the machined slots (lateral tolerance built in).

Zeta P2

7/20/15       #5: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
Dustin orth

Website: http://customwoodmontrose.com

The kreg jigs are used on site now , have 2 castle tsm-21 boring machines in the shop.

7/20/15       #6: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
JP Member

Thanks guys.

7/20/15       #7: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
Larry

We also have the Castle system, less problems with movement.

7/20/15       #8: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
rich c.

I use pipe or parallel jaw clamps, placed like I was clamping a dowel joint, then drive the screws. If it isn't clamped hard, it will push a little wood into the crack between the stock and push it apart when driving screws. I've also used a long straight drill bit to drill a real clearance hole in the pocket side to help eliminate the problem. I've never used that hole clamp they sell. Always thought that plywood core was too soft for that to work well in case goods.

7/22/15       #9: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
wcurlin Member

When joining plywood bottoms to the sides, I cut a 1/16 dado and pocketscrew it. It won't slide around in a dado.

7/31/15       #10: Kreg joints creeping sideways. ...
Dan / drbwoodworks

We switched to the Castle machines due to that problem, and we also only use the kreg jig for on site . The TSM-21 has been a great machine . Although we used the kreg machine for over ten years without any problem other than the one you speak of.

 

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