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Post Laminating Finished Ends and bottoms of uppers

12/16/16       
David  Member

Anybody have some good ideas on how to avoid post-laminating upper bottoms and finished ends without going to a dowel based system?

We currently manufacture with dado's backs and interior parts, but the ends are screwed from the outside so they need to be laminated after. The bottoms of upper cabinets have to be laminated as well to hide the seams.

This is one of the most time consuming things left in the shop and if I could find a good and cheap concealed fastener or new construction method to be able to use pre-laminated panels it would really speed things up.

We have 2 CNC's and use Microvellum for frameless cabinet construction.

Any ideas would be greatly appreciated.

12/17/16       #2: Post Laminating Finished Ends and b ...
Dan cook

Why are you against a dowel based system? It is so much faster overall. We have been using dowels since the 80's and have never looked back. It is worth the investment in reduced labor time.

12/17/16       #3: Post Laminating Finished Ends and b ...
Gary Balcom

David,

You have several options here, it really depends on how you are set up. If you're using MV, I'm going to assume you have some kind of CNC capability. The latest MV Frameless library has some new fasteners in it. FastenLink, and the new concealed fasteners from LockDowel, and more.

If you're not setup with CNC, maybe the p system from Lamello is an option? We like them in our shop for certain tasks, and do them "off line", with the manual machine.

12/17/16       #4: Post Laminating Finished Ends and b ...
cabinetmaker

First step is to cut the bottoms form the same as the door and drawer front sheets and then edgeband the cases top and bottom

Bottoms- solved

2nd step either psot laminate the ends or go through picking a method such as stop dado and run only those on the finished ends and do the same as the bottoms for the sheets stock

Where the rubber truly hits the road is letting the machines do all the work like our cnc router and doweller. With phenolic casework we use stopped dado and top rabbit assembly just something to think about

Dowels are great we use them for alignment and predrill our unfinished ends on the cnc and smash them together rapidly Compnay policy is to start the finished ends on the wall cabinets that are glue together, go to the base finished ends and then all unfinished cases, by that time the walls are dry and ready for doors

We use a pocketed rea nailer behind all the 1/4" backs and so that helps to keep the rear of the case tight

Time savings is truly doable with all finished ends just make a plan and go for it

12/27/16       #5: Post Laminating Finished Ends and b ...
Larry

Some of the new locking dowel systems might help you out.
We dowel & case clamp so no issues with laminating after. Sides are banded on bottoms. Fast! We do commercial only so most drawer boxes are also doweled and clamped in a Doucet. We buy dovetail parts and clamp with the Doucet also.


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