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Medex for raised panels3/13
We are starting to make hybrid doors with MDF raised panels. I am being told Medex is one of the better materials to make these with.
Does anyone have experience with this material? I understand it resists moisture better than most MDF. Is it harder on cutters?
What are you looking for in the panel? Most people are looking for less prep on the beveled edge.
I've been using double refined MDF by Plum Creek and it reduces the amount of prep needed by a large factor.
If you are looking for water resistant qualities the the Medex is the way to go.
Cabinet doors? Passage doors? Exterior doors?
Who is telling you this, the Medex salesman?
First, you will need good carbide tooling and plenty of power to raise the Medex or any MDF for long. You will also need to have excellent dust collection and personal protection since the brown cloud can/will envelop everything as well as your lungs.
I no longer make any panels in MDF. As in "you can't pay me enough to deal with that crap."
A customer prefers Medex, hence the question.
I never met a piece of medex that did not curl up like a potato chip.
We are early in this and we have tested with Plumb Creek. Medex in the thickness I need is hard to come by around here so I think it is a no go anyway.
I have many customers requesting Hybrid doors, I really don't have much choice. The benefits with painted jobs make it worth it. We will be producing them on a nested router so the labor savings is also significant. Think about that savings.
Hardwood process is:
With hardwood the parts been handled quite a bit.
MDF process is:
We have dedicated insert carbide tooling for the MDF. I am not sure how long it will last at this point.
"I have many customers requesting Hybrid doors, I really don't have much choice".
For several years around here a mantra was "Sell what you make rather than make what you can sell". The point being one of self-determination vs a flag of the winds, at the mercy of the winds, as another once put it.
Once we learned to sell what wanted to make, we never looked back. The money is a bit better, but we are all happier, we have a far better class of customer, we really find satisfaction on several levels, we are the envy of our peers, and even the scrap is better.
I do not mean to tell you what to do. Enough is written about herd mentality and how lower prices is always a dead end that is hard to reverse. Just my opinion.
I appreciate your input David but it is not like that at all. I sell wholesale and itís not about price. Itís about the quality of finish and stability of the product.
We've used 5/8" ultra refined mdf for raised panels since they invented the stuff in the mid 2000's. 3/8" mdf flat panels(been using that forever before the good mdf)
Both fully glued into soft maple.
We get zero paint cracking. Wood panels always crack, show, etc.
Never really had any issues with shaper cutters. Not sure why the other guys are complaining.
We don't have any issues around the dishwasher. There is a ton of paint on the raised panel.
I would call Vortex and talk to them. I believe they did a lot of testing on the CNC when they developed this set --->https://www.vortextool.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=category.display&catego
If you are going to produce MDF doors of any appreciable quantity, invest in diamond tooling. At least for your main bits. Carbide will work for about a 100 doors or so before it becomes dull and begins to burn. Customers are asking for Medex brand probably because of its moisture resistance properties. A good quality, double refined mdf panel with good coats of bonding primer will last for many, many years without abuse.