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"U" shaped drawers under vanity sinks5/11
Trying to figure out how big to make a standard opening in "U" shaped drawers. We are a custom shop but are trying to standardize a little more. We have been installing the vanities and waiting for plumber to do his thing and then come back to measure for cut out/U shape. Then go back again and install drawer and front. Needless to say its a time suck.
A ton of this will be dependent on the contractor and their subs but as a general rule 2-3" past the centerline of the cab off the back wall is as far as any plumbing will ever extend at the mid height of the cabinet. Unless your doing a bunch of rehab work in old homes there should be no cutout in bottom drawers or roll-outs. The only homes that should have plumbing coming through the floor would be older homes or a rare instance where a builder or architect in cold climates makes the foolish move of locating fixtures on an exterior wall (and then you will have issues of a vent penetration back into the wall inside the cab as well).
In new construction our roll-outs or bottom drawers have no U shape. A second drawer in a kitchen base or vanity will have a 5" wide U shape that extends 3" beyond the centerline of the cab. This would be called out to the customer or contractor and its their responsibility unless they supply us with model numbers for the specific fixtures.
Are we talking about kitchen or bathroom sinks here ?
Are you or your customers “standardizing” their sinks?
If your customer chooses a Kallista sink with a drain in the back right hand corner for their kitchen - then there won’t be a “u” shaped drawer. Period, end of story, not open to discussion.
In a bath vanity that’s only 18” wide a “u” shaped drawer doesn’t really make any sense either. Ditto with a xtra deep or square /rectangle sink.
I think you’re approaching this the wrong way. Make your cabinet however you want and can sell customers on. Provide spex and drawings for the contractor and plumber to conform the plumbing to.
Sub Zero does this for their plumbing and electrical on their fridges. The mechanicals go in a very small, defined area or the fridge can’t get installed. It’s not open to interpretation, debate or tradesmen’s opinions.
Ditto for Robern vanities which have the drawers you’re talking about in addition to electrical outlets that need precise placements. Then two trades get to curse you.
Make what the client wants and tell the trades to get with the program.
Excellent comments on both counts. Thanks to you both! problem solved
Like so as an example?
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I have had to build many U-Shaped drawers and the opening has been much wider then what you have drawn.
I have seen everything from un-equal offsets to the U being so large it looked like they were just trying to save by using 1 pair of slides rather than 2.
I personally don't think you will ever be able to standardize your U-Shaped drawer for custom cabinets.
Just my 2 cents,