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Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues

12/31/18       
Mike Member

Hello all,

I have been in this business for many moons and when it came to applying PVC etc, in the past, i used contact and it served me well. I haven’t done a whole lot of cabinetmaking lately as my business turned more into refinishing and touch up.

I decided to try pre-glued white PVC and almost instantly, my household iron melted it. I turned it down to the lowest setting and it still melts it.

At this point, im unsure of two things:

1. Is my iron going low enuf in temperature or, am i better served to buy an iron meant for EB. If an iron meant to do eb is the way i must go to prevent this, then who’s do you recommend? Model/manufacturer pls.

The crap eb i can buy at a home center never does this and i have a nicer iron than i should ever need. The home center pre glue is their white too, but obviously not ad durable as the suppliers PVC

THX!

12/31/18       #2: Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues ...
duster

Preglued PVC does not respond well to ironing on by hand. As you noticed, it melts, shrinks, or stretches when an iron is applied to it. Pre glued PVC is really meant for hot air edgebanding machines.

What you want for ironing on by hand is polyester edgebanding. What you get from the home center is probably polyester, since that's what most of their customers would be equipped to apply. It has a higher melting point, so it doesn't distort when it's hot enought to melt the glue.

12/31/18       #3: Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues ...
Leo G Member

Not sure what the problem is. I just hand ironed on some PVC the other day for a couple shelves in my own house on melamine. The wife is happy with me now.

12/31/18       #4: Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues ...
Mike Member

Duster,

I see these small EB machines advertised for around $300.00 and my assumption is they’re only meant to apply the eb and I trim it by hand as i have been.

True? Are those the hot air banders you’re referring to? If so, are they worth the $300-ish cost? Are those banders meant for pre glued? I’m once again assuming so.

Whos do you recommend?

Thx

1/1/19       #5: Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues ...
Mark B

I've had one of those $300 dollar bench top banders for years. I don't really use it anymore because I have my parts cut and banded at another shop.

You're correct, they are for use with preglued EB and it just heats the glue with hot air and all of the trimming is manual. There is a manually actuated cut off to cut the banding to length, but it leaves a tail that still needs to be trimmed. I was never convinced that it was really that much more efficient than a $20 iron. It can be a little fussy to use and set-up. I think the one advantage is that it heats directly from the glue side, rather than having to heat thru the banding which maybe gives a little better bond, and would probably help in your case.

If you want to buy a used one, let me know!

1/1/19       #6: Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues ...
Adam

I'll vouch for the Woodtek bander from Woodworkers Supply.

We've used it for over 15 years. Its used almost exclusively for putting prefinished maple banding on prefinished maple shelves. We'll do an odd ball panel here and there as well. The tape we get is only available from plywood distributers. The bond is as good as it gets. Very thick edge banding with plenty of glue. Its way easier to trim. Never used it for pvc. I can't see why it would be any different.

If you use the razor blades that are used for cleaning windows cutting is much easier. They are very sharp and cheap. hold them in your hand.

1/7/19       #7: Pvc pre-glued iron on eb issues ...
Larry Schweitzer

Like said, you should be using polyester banding not PVC.


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