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Grooved pull in painted mdf door

6/28/20       
Harold

Hi guys, attached is a door I have to make out of mdf and the routed pull must have some kind of groove or notch on the inside to be able to grip it. Any advice on how to do this? Thanks, harold


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6/28/20       #2: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Mark

Not sure which door you're referring to, everything seems to have a routed pull or lever pull
There are several tee shaped router bits available for making pulls as shown in the picture. go to Amana, MLCS, Freud websites

6/28/20       #3: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
duster

I would recommend against doing this. At best, the paint finish will be eroded and start peeling off from fingernails. At worst, the 1/4" of mdf remaining on the face of the pull will start to disintegrate. This might take a few months or a few years to happen, but it will eventually result in a callback for repair or replacement. A flush mounted, recessed metal pull would be a better choice here.

6/28/20       #4: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Harold

Website: http://morantzcabinets.com

This is not my house where I can do what I want. The client sent me these pics from his home in London as this is what he wants to copy. These cabinets are 4 years old , and if they had worn out, he would not be repeating the mistake again. High quality hdf well sanded and primed with two good coats of acrylic paint should not wear out. Just need to find the right bits to make the plunge and inside lip to grip to open.

6/28/20       #5: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Leo G Member

This

Drawer Pull - European Style

6/28/20       #6: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Harold

Website: http://morantzcabinets.com

Leo, that looks like it might work. It’s an edge profile and I need to plunge 90 degrees into the face of a drawer . Wonder if I can plunge straight down.

6/28/20       #7: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Pete

Just have a custom router bit made.

6/28/20       #8: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Leo G Member

I would think best practice for a hand held router would be a two pass system with a jig. 1st pass with a pattern bit that you can plunge and has the bearing on top to make a slot that is slightly bigger than the large diameter of the finger-pull bit. And then using a collar on the router with the finger-pull bit in it have the finger-pull bit a few thousandths deeper and do the perimeter cut.

6/28/20       #9: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Harold

Website: http://morantz cabinets.com

Leo, that is probably the best bet. One of my friends has a CNC and will see if he can do it for me. Thx

6/28/20       #10: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Leo G Member

CNC?

Well ya.... :)

6/28/20       #11: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Leo G Member

With a CNC no need to plunge. Use a ramps style trajectory back and forth descending about 1/8" per pass until you reach the desired depth. Then do the oval cut to make the undercut that will form the grab portion of the pull and then center and pull the bit back up.

Looks like the carbide on the bottom of the smaller bit almost touch which will make a good cut if it's moving across the substrate.

Even using the 2 pass system with the CNC will work well using two different bits if the CNC has an auto changer.

6/29/20       #12: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
MarkB Member

CNC I'd just plow out the bulk of the hole then leads with a tool similar to what Leo posted. Pretty simple. The hard part will be the horror of finishing that internal pocket for good finger feel. Man, Im not the most phenomenal finisher in the world but blowing finish up into a hole/pocket like that and getting a good build, then de-nib, and again... gosh that'd make me pucker.

You'd almost wonder if a back side applied part (basically a cup) and the front being a single piece with a pocket on the back for the cup wouldnt be easier. Durability... who knows.

6/29/20       #13: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
MarkB Member

P.S.,
The paired doors would of course be an issue with the backside machining, but it would still be a massive labor saver if there were a bunch of standard fronts

7/1/20       #14: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Allen Chalifoux

Are you sure this isn't an applied front that's routed from the back and installed on a 4 sided drawer?

7/1/20       #15: Grooved pull in painted mdf door ...
Harold

Website: http://morantzcabinets.com

Found a solution . Plunge cut with a 1” but and then use a 1/2” dovetail to run around inside from top with either a bearing or a jig. Doors are easy as I can rout from sides with a stop jig. Thanks guys!


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