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11/11/14       
Micky Member

Does anyone have thoughts about Busellato vs. SCMI nested machines. Parts and service issues along with tech support?

11/11/14       #2: cnc camparison ...
cabinetmaker

Biesse. Machines just run and run

11/11/14       #3: cnc camparison ...
Mike

Comparing Busellato and SCMI only? I have had better reliability with SCMI by a large margin for both parts and tech support. The one I have now, a Northwood beats both hands down and it is not even close. Based solely on my experience. I have used all of them extensively.

11/12/14       #4: cnc camparison ...
Dom

If your used to Northwood/Fanuc and Gcode youll hate them. I ran a rover 6.5 5 axis machine. Junk. No techs in the area so always have to fly in. Lots of money. Tech was there every 3 months for one thing or another. Im back on Northwoods again at new job thank GOD. My buddy that is still there says nothing has changed.

11/12/14       #5: cnc camparison ...
Cabguy

Same EXACT machine. Parts will be the same on both machines and a tech that can work on one can easily work on the other.

11/12/14       #6: cnc camparison ...
Mike

Dom,
Glad to hear you are back in your comfort zone! Nothing makes the job harder than a troublesome machine. One of the machines listed above literally gave me nightmares. It felt like I was working all night long.

11/12/14       #7: cnc camparison ...
cabinetmaker

Looks like I will be looking @ a Northwood on the next machine. Any advice on edge banders ? We have good luck with our machines, but always looking for better.

Thanks

11/13/14       #8: cnc camparison ...
Dom

cabinetmaker,
You wont go wrong with Northwood. I have 3 of them at my job now. 2 shifts a day we can produce around 60 units of plywood a day. Id put them up against anything.Years ago when I had a shop I had an IMA novamat CNC. Loved it. Great for everything.

11/13/14       #9: cnc camparison ...
Scott

I believe Busellato is owned by SCM, It is my understanding that some of the controllers are cheaper quality in the Busellato.
I think you have to spend more money to get good quality, there are so many machines that are made in places like Taiwan, or have parts made from there. The old Biesse's were great machines, the new ones are cheaply built.
There are a lot of machines in my area including a few Busellato ones, that are basically good boat anchors because there full of cheap parts made in Taiwan..
Like others said buy a good machine where you can get quick and good service.
In my area the only machines I would own are SCM, Weeke or Homag.

11/17/14       #10: cnc camparison ...
derrek

A good friend just bought a Biesse skill with the full auto load unload set up. We were talking machines and one that he looked at had an interesting quirk. The machine had to return the tool from the router to the holder before it could start drilling operations. About 15 seconds every time and double the cycles on the machine

11/21/14       #11: cnc camparison ...
Bill

Scott, where do you get your information?
You have interesting ideas about Busellato?
Care to give examples of where these Taiwanese parts are? I'll go pop the covers and look.

Most companies that make the larger machines have tried to make cost competitive machines to compete with the $60K and less machines. Maybe those entry level machines are what you are talking about.

11/24/14       #12: cnc camparison ...
Scott

Bill,
My information is all second hand and comes from a tech who works on these machines. It is my understanding that the controllers in these machines are made off shore and are of a lower quality. The machines in question were the Busellato cnc's and the Casadei edgebanders.
These machines have been getting cheaper and cheaper. You have to cut costs somewhere to produce them.

11/25/14       #13: cnc camparison ...
Bill

Busellato makes a wide range of machines.
I think to make a blanket statement is a big stretch. We have found the quality to be good. Next time we are doing maintenance and have the covers off to blow things out I will take a look. My recollection from the purchase is that the controllers are the same brand on my Jet Star as their larger machines.

11/26/14       #14: cnc camparison ...
Micky Member

The shop I work at is considering one of these machines. Any thoughts about one vs the other?

11/26/14       #16: cnc camparison ...
scott

I really don't think it matters what controller you have, or what cnc you have. What matters is when you crash it, or when it decides it is going to take the day off, how long will it be for you to get it going again?
A cnc is just like your work truck, it has a task that you use it for. If you buy a really cheap truck, you may have more problems, or you may not. If you take care of it, it will work better. But most importantly, when it breaks down is there someone who can fix it??? Service and support for your machine is of utmost importance, purchase a machine based on these things.
An earlier post I said I would probably only own a homag , weeke or an scm, i never made that statement because these are the most amazing machines , I made it because they are the only machines in my area where there is good service and support.
Cheers.

12/6/14       #17: cnc camparison ...
Micky Member

We are located in central WI. We are considering easy jet or pratix. Does anyone have one of these machines in that area? How is your tech service? How is your machine?

1/22/15       #18: cnc camparison ...
John McGinnis Member

Website: http://www.TGCabinets.com

Micky,

Did you ever make the purchase? I'd like to know how this went for you.

12/1/16       #19: cnc camparison ...
Pete R

I have Busellato easy jet 5.12 for over 2 months and it’s been a rollercoaster since day 1. On the second day of installation unpleasant accident happened, I was attacked by Scm/Busellato tech, but I didn’t press charges. Easy-jet came with one part broken- they call it muffler- and 2 months after I received 4 or more packages with spare parts but there is no-one good! Today I called about problem with post processor and tech Benjamin from SCM/BUSELLATO hang up on me accusing me of using illegal copy of Alphacam. I was train in Europe where I bought alphacam. They are telling me that they will not help me because they don’t have alphacam license in their data base in here.
SCM GROUP, BUSELLATO YOU SHOULD TAKE CARE OF YOUR PRODUCTS AND STOP WORRYING ABOUT THE OTHER’S PRODUCTS. IF YOU DIDN’T SELL IT IT DOESN’T MEAN THAT YOU CAN ACCUSE ANYONE FOR HAVING ILLEGAL COPY! YOU SOLD ME EASY JET AND POST PROCESSOR SO GET BACK TO WORK ON THOSE PRODUCTS!
I didn’t call about alphacam, I called about post processor!! And every time they logged into a team viewer they start changing options of team viewer without permission.
MY COMPUTER=MY PROPERTY!
I’m thinking of returning the machine very seriously.
This is real service from Scm, Buselato and I didn’t signed for that. BE AWARE!
Stay away from them, I highly recommend Biesse as I have Biesse Rover cnc router and Lato 38 edgebander from them. Service is great, even that I bought it used and they’re still on the phone with me, helping me out.


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