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11/1/15       
mike  Member

Website: http://www.lustigcabinets.com

anyone have a good way to hold small parts on a klever that has 2 vacuum areas?
having hard time holding small back operations. Biesseworks has jig thickness button but not sure how it works.
thanks

11/2/15       #2: biesse jigs ...
Gavin

Website: http://soraghanwoodworking.net

I am by no means a CNC guru , but I Remeber when we first got ours how much any little bit of information helped .

I have a biesse skill , I have 6 zones but the information should still be relevant . The jig button your referring to I do not believe does anything . On my machine it's actually how I tell the machine the thickness of my spoilboard.

If you are programming in biesse works , you have the option to leave an onion skin . This allows you to program the tooling to make one last final pass and only cut 1/16" ( or what ever you want to tell it to cut ).if you don't know this feature I would be happy to send you a screen shot of where to find it .

Or if your parts are programmed in CV or another software , You could also design a spoilboard and gasket off an area to increase the suction and hold down to that area . So for example if you commonly do a fixed shelf that is "12x20" but also other sizes close to that you could make one common vacuum fixture to hold any of them (Picture attached of one that I use).

Even more simply , assuming your spoilboard is clean and surfaced smooth and that's not where the air is escaping . Throw a sheet of 1/4 scrap ply over the rest of the open area so the vac isn't getting lost there .

Best of luck


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11/2/15       #3: biesse jigs ...
mike  Member

Website: http://www.lustigcabinets.com

Thanks Gavin,
Where do you input your offset for the gasket spoilboard? We have a spoilboard and alum. table. We use CW for all cabinets, and I will draw in Rhino and import to biesseworks for 1-offs.

I'm almost thinking to screw a couple straight edges to the spoilboard and use a wedge, then flycut after all parts are cut. We do the 1/4" trick but need to hunt for right sizes, looking for alternatives. I would like to use a adjustable spoilboard on top of my original if I could figure out how to tell it the jig thickness. in CW or BWorks.

thanks
mike

11/2/15       #4: biesse jigs ...
Gavin

Website: soraghanwoodworking.net

I adjust the overall thickness of my spoil board on the soft console at the machine. if i change the spoil board , to use a jig i change the jig thickness .

I dont know how long youve had your machine, but if you email biesse support, they are very good at offering help and its free of charge. Let me know if this answered your questions

11/2/15       #5: biesse jigs ...
Bill

Does the part in question always come with a part of the same material that is larger/longer?

We have very small parts that we cut and hold every time. They are onion skinned to the larger part and there is never a final cut made on the CNC. We have a router table build into the end of the out feed table with a flush trim bit in it. He zips the parts apart after it is routed.

Good luck!

11/2/15       #6: biesse jigs ...
Mike McClaran

Website: http://greenbvc.com

BVC can definitely help with holding parts. You can learn a lot by checking out the videos on our website. Good luck.

http://www.greenbvc.com

11/6/15       #7: biesse jigs ...
Jason Scott

Another trick you can try is to flycut a piece of melamine and then pocket the other side for where your parts go.
You can set up for a custom jig by adding the thickness of the jig to the height you set your spoilboard.

I have (for a short time more) an aluminum table klever. Have you sealed the edge of your spoilboard and flycut both sides of it?

Also check your vacuum filter often for a while. Ours packed up with Aluminum shavings for a while after we got the machine.

Good luck.

12/13/15       #8: biesse jigs ...
Jason Scott

I had another thought. If you have the aluminium table it has T slots you can bolt your work piece down or use clamps with the slots.


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