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Felder CNC anyone?4/18
Is anyone here running a Felder nesting CNC or at least does anyone know of a shop running one? Just about to buy our first CNC - leaning toward Thermwood but considering Felder as well.
Talked to a guy in Chicago area that has two. Got his number from sales. Has had good success
I'm thinking you would do well with Thermwood or Felder. I was looking at a Felder but we just can't knock the reliability of all our Biesses
Getting ready buy our 5th Biesse product another cnc router. Then an Intermac stone cnc. The stuff just works great
Good luck. Don't forget dust collection, added vacuum, electric and air to be in place. Start looking on e-bay for 200# vac lift
I think the weak Euro makes the Felder a pretty good value right now. I've seen it in action, seems like a well designed machine.
I don't own a Felder or Thermwood, but own two Busellatos, a Weeke and a Cr Onsrud. I can tell you this: I have looked at a lot of machines and if you are comparing the two, Felder would be my choice. It has great software - Albatros, the same as my Busellatos and we have about 20,000 hours collectively on them. You will benefit greatly by the front end on the Felder as it will allow programing at the machine and altering programs on the fly as well as calling up programs that are stored. Additionally, the people are competent and the machine is built well. It was on our top three pick list recently and space consideration knocked it out for us. Additionally, you must have an off-load table! That new concoction that Thermwood is promoting has no off-load. Good luck and get references!
john take alook:
I would be more inclined to buy a Busellato from Busellato vs. a "Felder" which is a Busellato with their badging.
I own 2 Busellato's Jet4 and 130, both great machines with excellent service/support.
I have personally had HORRIBLE!!! service with felder and would avoid them at all cost.
To avoid any confusion about Felder and Busellato... Busellato did build CNCs for Felder for a few years in mid-2000's. Since around 2008, there has been no collaboration between the companies.
Bill Blackmon, Busellato product manager
We have a Felder machine and it has been a rocky road. We process what they consider a unique material "plastic" so it has been a long learning curve teaching them how to make their machine do it.
I would be happy to address any questions or hear your feedback on this subject.
No we still didnt get one yet. we looked at a biesse and found it built way more robust than the felder. That being said I dont know if that adds to the machine or not. We had the scm rep in our shop but have not seen one in action. They are trying to get into the saskatchewan market and wanted to use us as a demo shop. We have had a big downturn in work volume since oil prices dropped as we are right north of williston ND and 1/2 of the economy is oil based here. Still busy but the focus of work has shifted. Stull looking at all options though as this is the way we want and need to go. From what I understand is that the format4 is and was always a pod based machine that was adapeted to a flat table nesting router. The scm seems robust as well, but i would look for progarmming eas as the first thing and software flexibility. I used ecabinets for a few years but found it to be too cumbersome on the computer although it works perfectly. Now we use Mozaik which is quite nimble but the output to the panel saw is harder to read. I chose this software so that it could portal to any cnc.
The Astra R-Nesting software can export layouts to any cnc saws: Felder, SCM, Holz-Her etc.
Look at the BOSS CNC machine - made in Texas. Great turnkey package deal. We've had great success with it.