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7/7/17       
Mitch Suber  Member

Website: subercustomshutters.com

I was recently contacted by a comapany about participating in an type of exeriment to determine shop needs for air cleaners. Other than my dust collector, and air conditioner filters, I thought my only other option for a small shop was a unit like a Shop Fox or Grizzly. Our shop air is definitely full of particles through most of the day. Dust every where on surfaces, a/c filters need cleaning daiy and even dusty air working its way into the offices. I agreed to try two units, no obligation or expense to me, other than giving feedback about the results. And after two months, I'm pleasantly surprised that I enjoy running the units while we work. It seems I am seeing benefits, I couldnt imagine, being accustomed to the previous situation. The owner of the company is trying to determine if there is a need in the woodworking industry for his equipment. These units I have turn 2000 cfm, and have four different fiter elements, so they really clean and move a lot of air. Any ideas would be appreciated, and if anyone would like to try these, he says he is willing to place more equipment to get feedback and ideas, as part of his research.


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7/7/17       #2: Cleaner Air ...
Bill

There are industrial units of this nature on the market. We had one in our prior shop, we inherited it.

Our dust collector runs wide open all day and performs the same function. 2,000 CFM is not very much.

7/8/17       #3: Cleaner Air ...
Puzzleman Member

What are the advantages this one has over the brands that you mentioned?
What is the competitive advantage?

7/8/17       #4: Cleaner Air ...
rich c.

Way better to remove the dust at the source. If you can see the particles in the air, your lungs are filling up with the same. Funny to see a pile of sawdust sitting on the sander right next to the air cleaner! LOL

7/10/17       #5: Cleaner Air ...
Mitch Suber  Member

Website: subercustomshutters.com

Your asking some good questions. Actually I'm thinking these are the kind of questions that the owner of the equipment was hoping I would ask him. He is trying to determine if there advantages or not, or if there is a demand that is not being met. Good observation Rich, i laughed too when I took the picture. The dusty equipment and the floor accumulation was from the order we processed prior to the air equipment coming in. African Mahogany makes for a red dust, and it sure heightened my awareness. The moulder and the belt sander are not connected at the moment, and sitting out of the way until we need them, so they have been coated for awhie. We do collect all we can at the source into our dust collector, but too much still gets by us. I can say that so far, we stopped seeing any dust build up on the flat surfaces.

7/11/17       #6: Cleaner Air ...
rich c.

It may not be settling on the surfaces any longer, but it's still airborne to get to the cleaner. That means you are still breathing some.

7/12/17       #7: Cleaner Air ...
door shop guy

Whats the difference between this and the Jet and Powermatic air cleaners?
Im all for cleaner shop air. Trying my best with dust collection at every single machine with main dust collectors having canisters, down draft machine, and 6 of the Jet or Powermatic units. It really is amazing the amount of dust the filters catch and i use the highest grade filters i can order....And yet there is still dust on the floor. lol
Does this guy have you using a Dylos air meter?...I think thats what they are called.

And i also have Blue Air filter units in my home and they are awesome.

7/20/17       #8: Cleaner Air ...
Mitch Suber  Member

Website: subercustomshutters.com

Im not sure of the filtering in the Jet and PM units, these we are using have four elements. Im going to see if I can get Jack on Woodweb, he needs to answer the questions. They are good questions. Door Shop Guy, if you want, he would probably let you run one to see. Right now all he wants is feedback, to see if these unit would be applicable to woodworking.

7/31/17       #9: Cleaner Air ...
big K Member

What Door Shop Guy was referring to are the Dylos DC1100 Pro for measuring how much stuff is in the air in your shop. I have had one of these in my shop for about a year now. Besides telling how much stuff is in the air that you are breathing it will also tell you what dust collection eqpt. and air filters work and what don't. And trust me, not everything that is being pitched to us actually works as well as the seller claims. There are some shysters that are hawking their stuff that just does NOT live up to their claims.

7/31/17       #10: Cleaner Air ...
Mitch Suber  Member

Website: subercustomshutters.com

Big K, I thought working with this equipment in a experimental approach would give me the benefit of learning a few things, without having to deal with a sales pitch or pressure to buy anything. The owner of the equipment is seriously trying to learn about the conditions found in a wood shop environment, and whether or not his equipment could be of benefit. I have had the equipment for several months now, and Jack has only called a few times to see what I have found or how the equipment is performing. I just spoke with him and ask him to get in the conversation here. I'm sure he would like more input than what can I can provide. Thank you for any thoughts and information you guys have provided.

8/1/17       #11: Cleaner Air ...
big K Member

Mitch, I would like to hear how this eqpt. is functioning with some input from an actual particulate counter like the Dylos. The issue of airborne fine particulate is a serious one. I may be dealing with the results from long term exposure.

While I know that we all are able to read subjective results (new dust showing up on the horizontal surfaces and floor) these results are slow to interpret. Meanwhile we wallow around in whatever dust is already around plus what we are adding while we work.

One of the advantages with using a Dylos DC100 Pro is that you will be able to see which specific machines or processes are the big culprits in this battle with airborne dust and so can start to work on how to correct these individual problems.


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