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Sherwin Williams advance high gloss cratering

10/22/17       
Justin Long

This is my first time spraying this product. And with it being glossy carnival red, my ignorance to this product shows up clearly. The panel is a 6' wide x 3' tall floating contrast piece that floats over one section of the reception desk. My first 2 coats went smoothly but then craters started forming on my 3rd and beyond. I tried sanding with 320 between coats but the problem only seemed to get worse. Now the panel needs to be installed on this desk I just built for a museum that opens in 2 days.
-So I'm hoping someone might have some insight on a couple things:
-Has anyone experienced the same scenario? Any ideas as to what I did wrong? I did rush re-coating (12 hrs later) on the third coat so that's my first guess.
-Second question is since I have to install the panel for the deadline tomorrow, if the flaws are appearant once installed, what fix can I offer my client that can be done in place over a long weekend? I'm thinking of possibly offering sanding with 320, filling small cratering and rolling with a traditional oil or latex over the existing.
Any professional opinions would be greatly appreciated!


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10/22/17       #3: Sherwin Williams advance high gloss ...
Bob Niemeyer  Member

Website: niemeyerrestoration.com

Give us more details, what did you spray with? Did you thin? time window on coats?

I see pinholes, sand down and start over.
No quick fix fix here.

10/22/17       #4: Sherwin Williams advance high gloss ...
Leo G

Being honest with your client is the best way to go. Put the defective one up temporarily and I'm sure that not to many will notice.

Then make another after you figure out what went wrong and replace it when they have time for you to do that.

I'm sure that not to many people understand the amount of trouble that can happen when spraying. And how hard it can be to diagnose the issue at hand. Especially when things go right for the most part on a usual basis.

What is the recoat window with the product. With 12 hours pushing it, it doesn't sound like a normal finish that I have used, precat, post cat or 2k all have windows that allow you to recoat a lot sooner than 12 hours.

Plus I can't find anything on SW Advance. Everything comes up BM Advance.

10/22/17       #5: Sherwin Williams advance high gloss ...
Justin Long

I sprayed with sherwin Williams advance which I mentioned in the subject line but good to specify. I did not thin the product. I used SW c-2 primer first over lightweight mdf. I was using an airless with the pressure turned to low. The pinholes are the small craters im referring to and the very purpose of this inquiry. The smallest window in between sprays was 12 hours which a suspect might be the cause of my problems. As I said in my post, starting over is not an option as this must be installed tomorrow so I'm looking for an alternative fix once the panel is attached at a later date. It will have to be rolled now unfortunately. I'm also asking to avoid the same issue on any future projects using advance.

10/22/17       #6: Sherwin Williams advance high gloss ...
Justin Long

Leo-
Thank you. It is Ben Moore! Not sherwin Williams. Sorry. I'll need to change that in my subject line. The product asks that there's a 16 hour window. It's very slow drying.

10/22/17       #7: Sherwin Williams advance high gloss ...
Leo G

My suggestion would be to get a color match of this in a 2K or a Post Cat and spray the MDF with that. You'd be done in one day.

10/23/17       #8: Sherwin Williams advance high gloss ...
RobertJ

I just read the spec sheet for the Benny Moore Advance. It states waiting 16 hours before applying a second coat. Also, it needs to cure for 3 to 5 days before putting it into use. And, why o why did you use this product for a museum? It's a house paint!
We can all do better! If you cannot re-do another one in you shop, and must re-finish on site, switch to a High Gloss Industrial Oil Enamel....or use Fine Paints of Europe.

 

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