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Matching a Restoration Hardware sample

8/14/16       
Neil ANTHONY

I'm trying to match a Restoration Hardware sample that was supplied by the designer on a large kitchen I'm working on. It's for an island and bar and the rest of the cabinets will be pigmented conversion varnish.
It's called Aged Oak and according to the label, it's a proprietary process produced by soaking the wood and then drying at high temperature and then repeating - like I can do that!! I've had two suppliers try to match without a lot of success. It's a very "organic" look in that it has various tones to the surface and grain so any stain and/or glaze is too consistent.

Any thoughts on how to achieve such a look - the owner describes it as a "driftwood" look.

Thanks

Neil

8/15/16       #2: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
kevin

try water soluble dyes. ive had great success with them in matching that kind of look. If u put it on in patches and let it soak in (dont wipe) the wicking action gives this natural motion to it. try different concentrations and color combinations.

The black really helps give it that weathered look. And the other colors help you zero in..

Constantines water soluble dyes

8/15/16       #3: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
kevin

wire brushing might help too. not sure without a picture. Post a pic, youll get better guidance

8/15/16       #4: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
nick Member

For the driftwood look I always apply Daly's wood bleach first. This will a take a lot the color out of wood so your dye/stain won't have to overcome the woods natural color.

8/15/16       #5: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
Neil ANTHONY

Thanks for the info. Will look into the water soluble dyes - being in a rural area (island actually), somewhat difficult to find someone with the knowledge and product.

I did wire brush extensively to help with look but that isn't the issue. I have to race out to meet client in a bit but will try to post a pic later.

The one supplier I used was Dalys in Seattle - surprising they didn't suggest that. I think I have some in fact so will play with that.

Neil

8/15/16       #6: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
Neil ANTHONY Member

Here is the sample of the wood.


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8/15/16       #7: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
Nick

l doubt you could open up the grain like that without dipping/soaking your lumber in hot water but short of that l would start with;
light wash of white stain
seal
white glaze
finish
if that doesn't get your color I'd go with the same schedule but daly's wood bleach first...this will help with opening the grain too as bleaching gets the wood very wet a couple of times.

8/15/16       #8: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
rich c.

Use Kevin's advice, wire brush head in a thickness style sander. Then thickness sand the hard grain smooth.

8/16/16       #9: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
David R Sochar Member

I will bet a very expensive lunch that Restoration Hardware's vendor does not do a multistep soaking and drying process for their inexpensive offshore furniture. No one at Restoration knows or cares how the finish is done, they just wanted you off the phone so they could go back to Pokemon or some other questionable activity.

The kids in China do whatever they need to do to get the look, but they are not soaking that oak.

Wire brushing is the place to start.

8/16/16       #10: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
Neil ANTHONY Member

Thanks for the responses. I talked to the architect/designer yesterday and the stain color I had was okay except there was still red color in it(white oak). She suggested I try bleaching also so will start with that. She's not so concerned with the grain being the same but more the color as they've picked out counters and floors based on it. it is not matching a Restoration Hardware piece.

David - I'm sure you're right - I didn't talk to them but the description was from the label on the back of the sample.

So hoping with the bleaching, the color will be closer and acceptable. I'll continue wire brushing as well.

Neil

8/19/16       #11: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
james G

Most Powder coat shops can or will .... or do it yourself , sand blasting ! Home Depot type store will carry the gun you need . It can be done to give you the different depths . Wood bleach will def . help in killing the red in your
" white oak "...
Just remember to neutralize if your wood bleaching more than once .

9/6/16       #12: Matching a Restoration Hardware sam ...
Dustin Member

Website: http://www.hardwoodflooringminneapolis.com

I would suggest wire brushing the wood to get the texture and finishing with Blanchon Hardwax oil finish color rough timber. It will look just like this. Best of luck.


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