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I've got an upcoming pigment job to do and have used both Target and MLC water based finishes in the past. I've recently started spraying Sayerlack for some of my clears and have been impressed. My rep says that they also can do it in pigmented, just wondering if anyone else here has used it yet, and if not what do you like best for pigmented water base. I've got a little time to experiment .
A quick side note. If you haven't used the new MLC Agualente Plus yet, do not expect it to act as before. So far I have found that the final finish has been great, but it's drying time has nearly doubled.
For the past 6 months I've been using SW's Kem-Aqua Plus and I am very satisfied; dries fast,comes out smooth., I've stacked and packed without issue after 24 hours dry time, clear coat it and it can pass for CV in feel if not durability, not to say itsn't durable...it is. the one problem I've had with it is sometimes out of the blue for a reason that is a mystery to me it won't flow out and I get little pin-holes in the finish. a couple of other pluses are; I pay $32.00 a gallon and it's readily availible.
I have used Aqualente and Lots of GF Poly in the past and both are excellent. I absolutely love GF products and they pretty much have the most complete WB line that I can reasonably access but they changed distribution channels so I have been looking around for something more local.
I had a meeting with my local SW rep and he is lining up some KemAqua samples in both clear and pigmented for me to try.
I talked to him about sayerlack and apparently that is only sold through industrial locations so it would need to come from a SW industrial store which is 150 miles away.
So does anyone know the differences in performance and cost between KemAqua and Sayerlack?
I second the General Finishes poly, hands down the winner by far in my book. I'm a MLC user of solvent based finishes, but loathe their water based stuff.
Tim, what are you using as a primer under the GF Poly? I have found their undercoat is too expensive and isnt a stain blocker.
Hey Tim Decker, I tried to get Sayerlac from my local SW store for 4 months to no avail. It went from one excuse to another to finally they just couldn't/wouldn't get it for me because of where I am (Southern Oregon). Now I'm happy with the Kem-Aqua but if there's something better I can offer my customers I want in on it. Which brings me to my questions; Where you located?, Who are are you getting this magic stuff from? and lastly, How's the availability?
Hello I finding it hard to find good info on Sayerlack and I there website is not helpful.
I use the Zinnser B-I-N Shellac-Based White Interior/Spot Exterior Primer and Sealer ,sprays great without the grain raising one gets with water based primers. Runs around $45 at most Lowes type stores.
In reference to the stain blocking primer from General Finishes, I respray lots of kitchens that start out as oak but customers want to be white and I have found two methods. The first is to shoot an initial cost of clear poly and let it dry,then shoot a coat of primer over that and let dry overnight.
I'd there are tannins that come through the original finish this is very important. If you just use the primer you can sometimes get by by eliminating the clear coat and waiting overnight as well but I find you get a better bond to the original finish with the clear coat than with any primer but if you don't let it sit overnight you will get bleed through no matter how many coats you throw at it.
Once the tannins are locked in you can shoot a coat of pigmented over it and if you still get bleed through, let the pigmented sit overnight and shoot a final coat over it.
ICA. 2 component is rock solid and far superior to anything mentioned. Tried em all.