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caulking center panels on doors

1/30/17       
jonathan mahnken

I know this topic has been around the block, and i know that some make their doors with a back cut profile so they dont have to caulk. But my question is this. For all of you buying doors from a door shop where they nail the panel to the frame from the back, do you caulk the panel? I do this and always have, because when i dont I get problems with spider webbing between the panel and the door. I was also taught by most of the better painting professionals in my area that this is considered to be "the right way to do a top notch job". I have always done this and always will, but recently i sprayed out a set of shaker doors for a "third party" and their client thought that i had somehow tried to cut corners or do less of a quality job by doing this!?!? I will also note that their clients were around the age of 30-35. The clients argument was that they had seen plenty of cabinet doors that were not caulked and at mine appeared as if i had just applied too much paint and it pooled (perfectly i might add) in the seams. I was paid for my work, but i was kind of insulted and didnt even know what to say. We have been in business since 1987 and have never encountered anyone who was displeased with caulked doors.

1/30/17       #2: caulking center panels on doors ...
Mike Fuson

I've never caulked a door, and purposely don't pool to leave that crack. Never had a complaint.

1/31/17       #3: caulking center panels on doors ...
Bart

I don't think those end users know what they're talking about. Using WB to get a nice look you have to shoot 4-5 coats on the fronts. I caulk and have for years. We get our doors from Decorative and you never know what you're gonna get. I have a batch I'm working on now that probably didn't need it. But I didn't want risk getting to the last coat and get the spiderweb look. Most of their doors panels are uneven touching here and there and some are slightly bowed making them touch in the middle but clean towards the ends. I hate caulking but it is what it is. I think if I was still using pigmented solvent (no grain raise) I could get away without caulking. Shoot straight down and only 3 coats would do it. But it's WB for me.

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1/31/17       #4: caulking center panels on doors ...
Nick

I wouldn't get too worked up about the customers. Sounds like you've been on the job for almost as long as they are old...so who's the expert; the person with 1,000's of hours of experience or the 30yo who heard something somewhere once.Now if they try to tell how to do the job, put a end to that right away.
I've been caulking my painted frame and panels since I started and l agree it's a pita but when done well it looks better.

1/31/17       #5: caulking center panels on doors ...
Adam

When one customer complains does it really matter? If they want more work give them the option of no caulk, but get them to sign off on it.

For the most part we have always made our own doors. We use soft maple with mdf panels. The panels fit tight and we glue them into the stile/rails.(Some people don't like this either) We've never had a problem in 25 yrs.

When I have bought maple doors in the past. They are not accurately finished. The panels are wood and are somewhat loose. I would expect them to move around. We have caulked them in the past.


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