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Walnut- gray stain?

1/31/18       
John Member

Can anyone give some insight on how this finish was achieved. I believe it's walnut and have been experimenting with black transtint and general finishes RTM black and white stains. It's proving to be an illusive finish. Thx..


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1/31/18       #2: Walnut- gray stain? ...
rich c.

I'm fairly certain that's not walnut. Looks more like reconstituted veneer to me.

1/31/18       #3: Walnut- gray stain? ...
Bart

Looks like formica or some other "faux" veneer. You can get the value of the color but you'll never get that grain like that. A client brought me something similar in gray shades. Good thing was she wanted real wood so I ended up gray washing almost to opaque quarter sawn white oak slab doors with GF rtm.

1/31/18       #4: Walnut- gray stain? ...
Bob Niemeyer  Member

Website: niemeyerrestoration.com

Work it up in a couple of steps.
First work up your background color for the wood and then seal as needed. Then use a "powder glaze" for the grain.
We get this stuff all the time from Int. Designers.

1/31/18       #5: Walnut- gray stain? ...
Bob Niemeyer  Member

Website: niemeyerrestoration.com

To add to my above post and after zooming way in on the photo it may take a few more steps with other colors but still very doable.
If I was building that kitchen I would match the veneer across the banks of doors.

1/31/18       #6: Walnut- gray stain? ...
John Member

The "faux veneer" did cross my mind; especially since none of the grain lines up. Yes.. I would certainly be matching the grain across each door.

Bob.. I've heard of powder glaze but have not used it. Without deep ornate features or very deep textured grain; I don't understand how it would work on a very flat, smooth surface.

Walnut is the only wood that comes to mind that has this sort of waviness and varying colors from from dark to light. Is there another that isn't an exotic? What would your best guess be for a sequence color application and what would those colors be? Many thanks for you help!

1/31/18       #7: Walnut- gray stain? ...
Pat

I don't think you're going to replicate that look with another species. You can get sequence matched sheets of quartered walnut veneer or laid-up panels, but it might be tough to get enough to be consistent across a big kitchen. Which is why many of them are laminate.

It's hard to tell from the picture, but it looks like natural walnut with minimal to no stain (assuming it's actually wood).

1/31/18       #8: Walnut- gray stain? ...
rich c.

I just can't see a way to get those dark streak lines without an airbrush and dye. On walnut you get a nearly solid dark color in the heartwood, and cream sapwood. That sample is showing narrow dark lines, just the opposite of nature. I guess you could buy sappy walnut and trim it so you use almost all sapwood with heartwood streaks. That would be one hell of a task for doing a kitchen!

2/1/18       #9: Walnut- gray stain? ...
nick

looks like a engineered product to me...last panel on the right of the island looks very similar to the panel to the right of the sink.
I've found to get a true grey on walnut you must get rid of the brown and purple first, bleaching is the best way I've found to do that but bleaching is a time consuming and expensive process not to mention hard on edge banding. I wonder if using butternut instead walnut would be a better way to go to achieve the look like in the picture.

2/1/18       #10: Walnut- gray stain? ...
Shane

That's definitely a laminate but the look could be replicated with enough labor and glazing on quartered walnut veneer and laying up your veneer faces correct.

2/1/18       #11: Walnut- gray stain? ...
CraigM

I spray a fair amount of walnut that looks like that, I have some in the shop right now (see pic). I've done gray stain like that before , I get my samples matched in my suppliers lab, usually an alcohol based dye or spray only, then topcoat with an acrylic or water-based to keep it in a gray tone.


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2/1/18       #12: Walnut- gray stain? ...
Jim Clark

How do all those side to side panels expand with that frame running full length?? Looks like it would just bust apart/

2/1/18       #13: Walnut- gray stain? ...
CraigM

@ Jim Clark That particular door is made from engineered flooring on an MDF core, so it should be pretty stable. I have had pieces come in to the shop in the past that I have questioned though. I just spray it, I don't build it thank goodness :)


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