Total Finishing Supplies

Professional Finishing

You are not logged in. [ Login ] Why log in
(NOTE: Login is not required to post)

Kem aqua plus white spraying technique

4/16/18       
Matt Calnen

Hello all. I just switched to SW’s kem aqua plus white and the stuff is so watery it’s very hard to spray on a vertical surface, even the edges of shelves want to sag. I am using an airless to apply, but I switch to the low pressure fine finish tips so you can back the pressure way down and not as much product comes out( I call it a poor mans air assisted airless). The kem aqua surfacer sprayed great with no runs or sags. I did use 2% retarder to fight the micro foam bubbles, so that may play a part in the runs, but I couldn’t get it to flow out with a light coat no matter how hard I tried. That lead to adding alittle more and then the runs started. Any thoughts or tips would be appreciated. I normally spray oil based paint and it’s much more forgiving. Thanks

4/16/18       #2: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
nick Member

I've been spraying both the clear and the pigmented as my go to WB finish the last couple of years (over 200 gal. in that time). I fought it at first but I've got a handle on it now and have been getting very good results and like using it. It is thin so I use low pressure delivery systems when spraying it (I must admit to never even considered using a airless or AAA to spray it due to it's thin viscosity and fear of micro bubbles). For the pigmented I've settled on a 1.2 or 1.3 nozzle for pressure feed (diaphragm pump) or a 1.8 or 2.0 for a gravity gun. For the clear, I'm liking a 1.1or 1.3 when using a pressure feed set-up (stainless steel pot) or 1.4 for a gravity gun. I don't remember the last time I had a run.

4/17/18       #3: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
david zaret Member

the pigmented is indeed very thin. i am using a kremlin AAA, and it does take a little technique on vertical surfaces. bubbles can be an issue, but i've gotten lucky with that.

with the clear, i have zero issues with the AAA and bubbles. the last 8 gallons or so over the past few weeks have sprayed absolutely beautifully.

nick you are using a standard HVLP for the pigmented? maybe i'll try that next time to avoid the bubbles.

4/17/18       #4: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
nick Member

I'm a spray gun fiend so...Sata 1000K RP for pressure feed (best spray gun I've ever used) and either a Sata 2000B RP or Devilbiss Compact trans tech for a gravity gun.

4/18/18       #5: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
Chuck

We switched to waterborne, primarily Kemaqua, almost two years ago for insurance reasons. We also initially tried to use our airless that we had used for solvent finishes but finally gave up because of the same problems you mention. I bit the bullet and got a CATech AAA rig and it made all the difference in the world. We use a 409 and a 411 tip.
There has definitely been a learning curve but we are finally getting pretty consistent results.

4/21/18       #6: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
al

Any problems with the Kem Aqua Plus primer? Someone on Woodweb said he had some chipping on beaded face frame when using the primer. He posted about a year ago.

4/23/18       #7: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
nick

After a 1/2 day spent spraying 30+ drawer boxes I have to admit a AAA pump does outperform the pot/gun when using WB's in tight spots with right angles....much less bounce back & overspray = a smoother finish. Binks mx 412 pump,Graco G-15 with a 510 fine finish tip, approx 500 psi fluid, 18-20 psi air.

4/24/18       #8: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
al

Nick,
I read some old posts and you mention that you use bin with the Kem Aqua Plus. I use bin all the time but
have not used the Kem Aqua Plus yet. Does the overall mill thickness which they say should not be more than
4 mill include the bin or just their product?
Thank you,
Al

2/9/24       #10: Kem aqua plus white spraying techni ...
Jim

I've used Bin as a primer with very good results. Thought I would try the primer (its called a "srufacer") fantastic results. Sands easily to a talc like powder. I'm a hobbyist and use the Fuji Semi Pro (HVLP) system with very good results.


Post a Response
  • Notify me of responses to this thread
  • Subscribe to email updates on this Forum
  • To receive email notification of additions to this forum thread,
    enter your name and email address, and then click the
    "Keep Me Posted" button below.

    Please Note: If you have posted a message or response,
    do not submit this request ... you are already signed up
    to receive notification!

    Your Name:
    E-Mail Address:
    Enter the correct numbers into the field below:
     

    Date of your Birth:



    Return to top of page

    Buy & Sell Exchanges | Forums | Galleries | Site Map

    FORUM GUIDELINES: Please review the guidelines below before posting at WOODWEB's Interactive Message Boards (return to top)

  • WOODWEB is a professional industrial woodworking site. Hobbyist and homeowner woodworking questions are inappropriate.
  • Messages should be kept reasonably short and on topic, relating to the focus of the forum. Responses should relate to the original question.
  • A valid email return address must be included with each message.
  • Advertising is inappropriate. The only exceptions are the Classified Ads Exchange, Machinery Exchange, Lumber Exchange, and Job Opportunities and Services Exchange. When posting listings in these areas, review the posting instructions carefully.
  • Subject lines may be edited for length and clarity.
  • "Cross posting" is not permitted. Choose the best forum for your question, and post your question at one forum only.
  • Messages requesting private responses will be removed - Forums are designed to provide information and assistance for all of our visitors. Private response requests are appropriate at WOODWEB's Exchanges and Job Opportunities and Services.
  • Messages that accuse businesses or individuals of alleged negative actions or behavior are inappropriate since WOODWEB is unable to verify or substantiate the claims.
  • Posts with the intent of soliciting answers to surveys are not appropriate. Contact WOODWEB for more information on initiating a survey.
  • Excessive forum participation by an individual upsets the balance of a healthy forum atmosphere. Individuals who excessively post responses containing marginal content will be considered repeat forum abusers.
  • Responses that initiate or support inappropriate and off-topic discussion of general politics detract from the professional woodworking focus of WOODWEB, and will be removed.
  • Participants are encouraged to use their real name when posting. Intentionally using another persons name is prohibited, and posts of this nature will be removed at WOODWEB's discretion.
  • Comments, questions, or criticisms regarding Forum policies should be directed to WOODWEB's Systems Administrator
    (return to top).

    Carefully review your message before clicking on the "Send Message" button - you will not be able to revise the message once it has been sent.

    You will be notified of responses to the message(s) you posted via email. Be sure to enter your email address correctly.

    WOODWEB's forums are a highly regarded resource for professional woodworkers. Messages and responses that are crafted in a professional and civil manner strengthen this resource. Messages that do not reflect a professional tone reduce the value of our forums.

    Messages are inappropriate when their content: is deemed libelous in nature or is based on rumor, fails to meet basic standards of decorum, contains blatant advertising or inappropriate emphasis on self promotion (return to top).

    Libel:   Posts which defame an individual or organization, or employ a tone which can be viewed as malicious in nature. Words, pictures, or cartoons which expose a person or organization to public hatred, shame, disgrace, or ridicule, or induce an ill opinion of a person or organization, are libelous.

    Improper Decorum:   Posts which are profane, inciting, disrespectful or uncivil in tone, or maliciously worded. This also includes the venting of unsubstantiated opinions. Such messages do little to illuminate a given topic, and often have the opposite effect. Constructive criticism is acceptable (return to top).

    Advertising:   The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not an advertising venue. Companies participating in a Forum discussion should provide specific answers to posted questions. WOODWEB suggests that businesses include an appropriately crafted signature in order to identify their company. A well meaning post that seems to be on-topic but contains a product reference may do your business more harm than good in the Forum environment. Forum users may perceive your references to specific products as unsolicited advertising (spam) and consciously avoid your web site or services. A well-crafted signature is an appropriate way to advertise your services that will not offend potential customers. Signatures should be limited to 4-6 lines, and may contain information that identifies the type of business you're in, your URL and email address (return to top).

    Repeated Forum Abuse: Forum participants who repeatedly fail to follow WOODWEB's Forum Guidelines may encounter difficulty when attempting to post messages.

    There are often situations when the original message asks for opinions: "What is the best widget for my type of shop?". To a certain extent, the person posting the message is responsible for including specific questions within the message. An open ended question (like the one above) invites responses that may read as sales pitches. WOODWEB suggests that companies responding to such a question provide detailed and substantive replies rather than responses that read as a one-sided product promotion. It has been WOODWEB's experience that substantive responses are held in higher regard by our readers (return to top).

    The staff of WOODWEB assume no responsibility for the accuracy, content, or outcome of any posting transmitted at WOODWEB's Message Boards. Participants should undertake the use of machinery, materials and methods discussed at WOODWEB's Message Boards after considerate evaluation, and at their own risk. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages it deems inappropriate. (return to top)


  • Forum Posting Help
    Your Name The name you enter in this field will be the name that appears with your post or response (return to form).
    Your Website Personal or business website links must point to the author's website. Inappropriate links will be removed without notice, and at WOODWEB's sole discretion. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links it deems inappropriate. (return to form)
    E-Mail Address Your e-mail address will not be publicly viewable. Forum participants will be able to contact you using a contact link (included with your post) that is substituted for your actual address. You must include a valid email address in this field. (return to form)
    Subject Subject may be edited for length and clarity. Subject lines should provide an indication of the content of your post. (return to form)
    Thread Related Link and Image Guidelines Thread Related Links posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should point to locations that provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not to serve as an advertising venue. A Thread Related Link that directs visitors to an area with inappropriate content will be removed. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links or images it deems inappropriate. (return to form)
    Thread Related File Uploads Thread Related Files posted at WOODWEB's Forums and Exchanges should provide supporting information for the topic being discussed in the current message thread. Video Files: acceptable video formats are: .MOV .AVI .WMV .MPEG .MPG .MP4 (Image Upload Tips)   If you encounter any difficulty when uploading video files, E-mail WOODWEB for assistance. The purpose of WOODWEB Forums is to provide answers, not to serve as an advertising venue. A Thread Related File that contains inappropriate content will be removed, and uploaded files that are not directly related to the message thread will be removed. WOODWEB reserves the right to delete any messages with links, files, or images it deems inappropriate. (return to form)
    Sponsors
    • EX-FACTORY INC.
      Offering New & Used Woodworking Machinery including Auctions & Liquidations
    • SAMES North America Corporation
      Precision Spraying Solutions From Pumps To Complete Application Systems-Design and Manufacture of Process Equipment Including Airspray, Airmix, Airless, Rexson Dispense, Electrostatic and Powder Coat
    • Carter Products
      Band Saw Guides, Blades, Wheels, Tires, Line Lasers and 2D Projectors, Wide Belt Sanding Accessories, Vacuum Holding Systems and More
    • Unique Machine & Tool
      Industrial Machinery for Door and Drawer Production
    • TotalFinishingSUPPLIES.com
      Solutions and supplies from spray tips to spray booths for all your woodworking needs
    • Supergrit Abrasives
      Industrial Quality Abrasives Manufactured by Leading US and Foreign Companies
    • Simantech
      New & Used Machinery, Supplies, Tooling, Parts, and Abrasive Products

    Become a Sponsor today!