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Bed/bath door hinge and lock set jig

1/20/14       
Mike

Hi guys and gals,

I remember many years ago, (I believe Portercable made it) - door hinging kit. Back then, it was like 300.00 and for all I know, it's at least that now. I need to replace the doors in a home built in the 50's, which has a smaller scale hinge for the doors than our typical 3-1/2-4" hinge.

Point being, i need a, if they make it, a hinge routing jig that will do the door and the jamb too.

They have plaster 5-1/8" walls and would prefer to not replace the jambs and take the casing off too.

Any links?

Thx!

1/20/14       #2: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Kip

http://www.acmetools.com/shop/tools/porter-cable-59381

1/20/14       #3: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Bruce H

For a one off situation I'd make a jig out of 1/4" mdf.

1/22/14       #4: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Mike

Thanks for the responses guya!

Kip,

That's exactly what I was thinking of/about!

1/22/14       #5: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Mike

As i think about it, that solves my hinge delima, but what about a jig for drilling for the lockset and mortising for the area the lock rests into on the edge of the door itself? Im ok chiseling the strike plate on the door jamb? I knoe I can use a spade bit to drill the hole the lock itsself slides through.

1/22/14       #6: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
ML

We use the Templaco kit - with the carbide bits life is sweet! A bit pricey (you can search around and buy less than factory direct) but well worth it.


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Carbide Templaco Door Mortise Kit

1/23/14       #7: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Mike

Thx ML.

Have you used porter cables version? Is that version you posted that much better? If so, may I ask how?

That kit you posted, is that all I would need, because I see they sell several accessories, etc?

It looks as though the PC version has everything included.

Thx

1/24/14       #8: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
ML

Mike - I have not used the PC, so can't say if it's better, same or worse. Before purchasing this unit a year or two back I had Googled and found many recommended this unit over all the rest for someone in the trade (vs. a handyman with maybe a dozen doors a year). I can't say enough about how well it's worked for us - several hundred doors, including 32 rustic oak 1-3/4 doors with tons of knots. Carbide bits drilled through clean as can be with ease. Have yet to get them sharpened.

This kit suffices for us. I've only used one of the strike templates - it has worked for all those we utilize. Not sure what you do that might require more than is included in the kit. Check out their website for more info.

1/24/14       #9: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Jake

The templaco kit looks like it's only for the locksets ... I don't see any hinge mortising gizmos ..... am I missing sumthin?

1/24/14       #10: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
ML

Jake, reread the above posts - the OP (Mike) asked for a lockset jig recommendation in Post #5, after his initial hinge kit question was answered.

1/24/14       #11: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Mike

Ml,

I would be doing your typical slab solid or hallow core home depot doors.

Jake raises a great question. It appears, amd after reading what i thought was correct, the product you're recommending is only for mortising lock sets and not hinges like the other poster displayed that the PC would do the hinges

1/24/14       #12: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
ML

Guess I'm really getting confused at what you guys are all talking about. The PC link posted is for a Hinge Mortising Kit "only" - that's what Mike initially asked for, which by the way - we use and like a lot. But, it will "not" do locksets. You replied by saying that's okay for my hinges, but what can I do about my locksets. So, I posted a link for the lockset kit that we found to be a good choice for us. I've included a link at the end of this post for the Porter Cable "Lockset" kit that I had originally compared the Templaco to before buying my kit. That's what I believe is the PC version of the Templaco.

So, are you now asking for a kit that contains parts to do both hinge AND locksets ? I may be wrong - but I don't believe there is a kit that contains both. Please correct me if I'm wrong - I have never really looking into that, I'm sure you'll find one, I'm just personally not aware of one. All I did was post a link to a kit for mortising locks in response to your Post #5 query for such a kit.

Meanwhile, I'm going to get a screwdriver and stick it in my eye (Lewis Black quote).. ;-)

Porter Cable Lockset Kit

1/24/14       #13: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Justin Huisenga

As was suggested before I would make my own template. For 5 doors i would use a single pocket for one hinge, made exactly the size of the hinge, and use a short pattern bit to route the mortise. You will also need templates for strike and latch. Making templates is a good trick to have in the bag. Making them is easy and takes little time.

If your determined to buy one Templaco sells single pocket templates or if you want an adjustable model buy the Bosch with the layout blocks. I would consider it superior to the adjustable PC because it doesn't need to be flipped end for end to switch from door to jamb. I own a Bosch but rarely use it as I prefer fixed 3 pocket templates for new doors and rarely do refits that require more than five doors and don't want to deal with the hassles of setting up one of the adjustable jigs. The plastic PC single hinge jigs sold at Home Depot are poorly make and will not last.

For drilling I use a Classic Engineering boring jig. It is almost identical to the Templaco Bore Master. I owned the PC boring jig and gave it away. It uses an auger to drill the edge bore guided by a cheap bushing. The bushing quickly wears out and the whole thing gets very sloppy. It only worked with a 1" bit and left small crescent shaped over drill spots visible on either side of the latch mortise. CE and Templaco use replaceable tip spades for the edge bore.The advantage of the replaceable tip that you can change the tip size to go smaller of the latch bolt doesn't require a 1" hole.

If you don't drill a lot of doors then you don't need the carbide bits. If you intend to drill a lot of doors the carbide bits are worth it.

I would also recommend a door plane. In a pinch a regular power plane will work if you make a longer beveled fence for it but is really not long enough and prone to snipe. I have used the Festool but hands down prefer the PC 126 even with its lack of dust collection. It's made do do nothing but doors and has been the standard for decades. You can buy one Ebay cheaply. There are three on there now for under $100.

Pick up Katz's Door Hangers Handbook and his DVD on hanging doors. Lot's of good info and they will help you avoid many of the expensive mistakes that are very easy to make.

2/8/14       #14: Bed/bath door hinge and lock set ji ...
Paul S

Is was such a great purchase
(Carbide Templaco Door Mortise Kit)
when I used to be a finish carpenter.....It was used a lot.....and it was quick.....don't use it much any more as not many people are dropping big $$$ on entry doors lately.


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