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Business costs regarding choice of wood fence posts

6/7/15       
goodiswood

Hello Friends,

I am considering the costs and benefits of using some wood posts to make a fence. I want to attach a non climbable galvanized wire ( horse wire ) attached to the posts with u nails or fence staples to keep people out of a business area. The more expensive the fence the more the property taxes are. I need advice on the type of wooden fence posts to use. I used some 4x4 pressure treated SYP that was labeled for ground contact and sold by a major advertiser on TV. After about 4 years in the southern heat and rain in some sandy soil they just fell over at the ground level. These posts I was experimenting with were not even attached to anything. There was no windload or fence or anything pushing on them. I thought maybe the treatment was not good and termites ate them. On close inspection, there were no termites involved. The posts had just decayed in the ground and softened. These posts were bought about 4 years ago and were treated with the new pressure treatment that the major home improvement stores have done to their pressure treated wood. Any ideas ? Are the wood posts sold by farm stores any better ? Should I buy the farm posts and then treat them with a chemical solution myself for added preservation ? I do not want to pollute the ground in case their winds up being a soil test in the future if I sell the land. Should I just go with metal T posts ?
I want the most cost effective solution I can get and I would like to know how long the fence would last and the Total cost of ownership in making the decision. I also do not want to use a fence that will cause the insurance company to be unhappy with liability or danger issues that somebody might get hurt on the fence. Please give your advice and thoughts, Thanks

6/8/15       #3: Business costs regarding choice of ...
UCannotBSirius

That is an interesting problem - the government will tax you if you build a nice fence, if you don't, then insurance will get you and for some reason you are set up in a place where you need security.

I would go with a 12 foot tall brick wall topped with concertina wire. Include towers and guards with machine guns and spot lights to enhance the overall effect.

Dogs and a moat are optional.

6/8/15       #4: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Eric

Go get Black Locust fence posts.

There's an old joke the farmers tell... Put in a Black Locust fence post. 50 years later, the hole will be gone, but the post will be there.

6/9/15       #5: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Gene Wengert-Wood Doc

A properly treated post should last for 50 years easily.

Your posts were not properly treated. Did they have the AWPB or AWPA sticker on them? It sounds like that with the rapid failure, the treatment was green colored water. An untreated post would last as long as your posts.

Note that we have had several instances of this rapid failure when the greater was a fraud.

If you saved the sticker or if it is still in the ground, It should have the treating mill's number on it. You should be able to make a claim.

Even if the treatment was actually for above ground, this rapid failure points to no treatment at all.

6/10/15       #6: Business costs regarding choice of ...
goodiswood

Hello friends and my expert friend the wood doctor !

I can tell you that they still have a sticker on them because I left that end out of the ground in case something like this happened. I do not know if I can still read it all though, due to the sun damage. I wish I had recorded the warranty information but I did not. If you email me privately Doc, I can tell you the brand and try to get you more sticker information.
I am disappointed and not sure if I should use wood because of this problem. Their warranty says if you read it closely that if the wood fails they will give you a new piece of wood. I do not think they will pay for the cost of reworking the whole fence that is the labor and time and other materials lost due to a failure. The wood posts had very closely spaced rings and were very heavy because that meant they would not warp and were straight. I wonder if that kept the treatment from going very deep ?
Thanks for the feedback as I try to figure out what to do.

6/10/15       #7: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Gene Wengert-WoodDoc

Check to see if you can find a better source of treated wood. The post should last 30 years.

10/21/19       #8: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Larry Member

Website: https://fencingsantafe.com

Yes, highly recommend Black Locust for your fence posts. We install a lot of split rail fences in Santa Fe the strength of these posts is 2480 PSI. We use it for all our split rail fences. Horses will kick boards or rails off posts all the time, and Black Locust is very heavy and very hard, so is pretty resistant to high shock, decay, termites, rot, you name it. Should last a very long time (70-90 years depending on your region climate)

11/4/21       #9: Business costs regarding choice of ...
John

Website: https://www.charlottejunkremovalservice.com/junk-r...

Treated pine is the most affordable and durable wood option, with HomeAdvisor estimating approximately $1 to $5 per linear foot for a 6-foot tall privacy fence board. Pressure-treated pine will be more durable than regular pine over time, so it is a good value even though it costs a bit more.

4/13/22       #10: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Ken Hobbs

Website: https://www.lynnlaw.com/

I suggest you go try farm posts and then treat them with a chemical solution yourself it will last for 20 years and more.

8/24/22       #11: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Oliver

Website: https://www.paintersreddeer.com/

i guess they have the best wood fence posts here. i couldn't agree any better with their choices.

9/22/22       #12: Business costs regarding choice of ...
Reine

Website: https://bathroomremodelingeriepa.com/

I think you should go for treated pine. It has really good quality and can boost a lot of helpful feedback.


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