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wheelchair motor wiring for auto feed

6/11/16       
revid Member

I just bought a invacare wheelchair motor with controller and joystick for an autofeed setup on my bandsaw mill but dont know where all the plugins go.I uploaded some pics hoping someone to have a look at. Anyone using these motors?Using just one?


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6/11/16       #2: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
invadon'tcare

Sounds like a bad idea - both an auto feed on a band saw and tearing apart a wheelchair without taking notes.

Does anyone use that? Invacare does.

But seriously, how difficult a problem can that be? It's not as if the plugs can be plugged into the wrong socket.

Best of luck.

6/11/16       #3: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
Revid

A lot of guys are using them and they do work. Not tearing apart a chair, for some reason it was already done. Bought on eBay and as for plugs , no brainer to plug into one another if you have both sides. Controller into motor was simple as looking at it, it's the others Iam wondering about

6/13/16       #4: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
revid Member

Just an update....got the plugins plugged together.just have to hook up to batteries when I get them.

6/19/16       #5: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

Don't no much about yours,but this is how I set mine up . first video of how I buit the power feed and the other one is a video of it finished and working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-i16w2

6/19/16       #6: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

And it works,12 volt power feed

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH-i16w2F7I

6/19/16       #7: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

Looking closer at your pictures I see what looks like a heat sink that runs from the 24 volt motor. I don't believe you will need the heat sink because the feed on the mill would not be running anyway close as long as on a wheelchair under load. So I would not use that and cut the plug off at the motor and run those wires to the motor switch.

6/20/16       #8: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
revid

got the motor working,had to use a vehicle headlight as a resistor in place of the other motor.The control box wont let anything work if it doesnt "feel" the other motor. Trying to figure a way to replace the headlight now with some sort of resistor.Nice setup Gord,I tried the motor/controller setup like you suggested and for some reason it wouldnt work for me. I fried the speed controller.As long as I was travelling fast it was good but as soon as I slowed down to a crawl the controller was smoked.

6/20/16       #9: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

Sounds like the problem is in the control box. I would bypass the box and wire stright to the switch.

6/20/16       #10: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

Now that I think out it you need the control box to control the speed. looks like you need the wiring schematic. Might need to find what kind of cotroler you have to find it.

6/20/16       #11: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
Revid

Thanks Rod for input and in my previous post it was you I was referring to .Dont know where I got Gord from. Lol
Speed control is on joystick at least that's where knob is but don't know if I can bypass control box

6/20/16       #12: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

The wheelchair control probably has a lot of stuff in it that has more than just forward reverse and speed. It has steering and brakes and other stuff. Trying to figure out what goes to what to bypass to get the thing to work on a sawmill might take some time. On my setup I only have 2 wires to deal with to make it work. All you need it to figure out where to speed control is at and run the wires from that to the motor . Also you will have to figure out where the forward and reverse wires and hook those wires up to the speed controller. I also see the motor is 24 volts which looks to mean you will need a 24 volt battery to run the motor. Might run on 12 volts bout I would think that would mean you will have half the power on the motor.Link below you could use for a speed control.

Link

6/20/16       #13: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

here is a switch you could use for forward and reverse. But therm in a box and you will be set to go to the 24 volt motor.

Link

6/20/16       #14: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
Revid

Got two 12 volt batteries all ready to go that's no big deal. Figured if I could match the resistance of the lights to a resistor I would begood

6/20/16       #15: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

I would guess the resistor is built into the wheelchair controls to control the speed of the motors. I see no need to add any thing for resistance To slow the motors down the resistor just lowes the volts and amps to the motors.

6/20/16       #16: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
Revid

I want a resistor to take the place of the other motor. The computer won't let anything happen cause it detects that there is only one motor hooked up which is all I need. By hooking up the lights or a resister it fools the computer into thinking that there's two motors and it's ok to go.

6/20/16       #17: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

Okay,got it. Just run those wires over to the motor you have already and hook them up all together. That should fool the computer to think there are 2 motors hooked up.

6/20/16       #18: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
revid

yeah I ran the wires from the lights and it fools the computer but I would rather have something else like a resistor instead of the lights shining.Hope this all makes sense. I have to find out what the sealed beam is and try to match to a resistor

6/20/16       #19: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

looks like adding a resistor will use battery power and does nothing but to fool the computer. But if you want to go that wat just get some resistors and add or subtract them tell you have it running the way you like. I'm guessing the headlight would be about equal to a 2.6ohm resistor.

7/24/16       #20: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
Lester Gillett Member

Rod I have been thinking about adding a
power feed to our mill. I see you have a link to a speed control and forward
reverse switch. I have a car window motor
and think it might work. May have to add
a gear or drum to move the head. I think
I would use a wire or rope for the drive.
Do you think that might work?
Lester

7/24/16       #21: wheelchair motor wiring for auto fe ...
ROD HAYS

Lester, I think a car window motor wont work because it is a lot smaller when a wheelchair motor. But I could be wrong.


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