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small cedar display case am I ok building

9/13/17       
Ben Member

hello

I just want to make sure I am not making a mistake on small cedar display cases. I made about a dozen so far and the company has ordered several more and I may end up making several dozen, I want to make sure I am not putting a product out there that may have issues.
the unit is kiln dried resawn western red cedar it will be used in climate controlled retail outlets. The unit is 10"x17" with 3 evenly spaced shelves dadoed and glued. the sides 4" box jointed and glued. The outside of the box and the shelves are resawn, planed and sanded to .325. The back is prepackaged 5/16 t&g panels and is glued along the back of the outside and shelves. I am using titebond original and the glue joints seem fine. The unit is unfinished. The unit seem stable and I have moved them from hot and humid to air conditioning and they seem fine. I have read that cedar is pretty stable. climate controlled environment and kiln dried lumber with small areas of uncontrolled space to move I am hoping the units will be ok.

Thanks

9/14/17       #2: small cedar display case am I ok bu ...
Tyler

Website: http://www.ciadgroup.com

I don't see any issues, your process seems fine, and cedar is pretty good in just about every environment, even outside.

The only suggestion I might make is switching to titebond 2 or 3, if there is any chance at all it could make contact with water, because there is no finish protecting the glue joint.

9/14/17       #3: small cedar display case am I ok bu ...
David R Sochar Member

A few things to add to the mix:

Is the Cedar quarter sawn or plain sawn? In Cedar, quartered is often called Vertical grain. One will move approximately twice as much as the other. Look up the Shrinkulator for exact amounts.

Do you accommodate cross grain movement? Your customer may have stable environment, but that does not mean the end user has same. Will draws still work if these are in 90% RH, 45% EMC? Bruce Hoadley's Understanding Wood can help you with that type of info.

Lastly, TB and other waterbed glues are not appropriate, in my opinion, for gluing WRC. A glue tech that works for the Big Glue Co. told me that about 20% of the WRC has a higher resin content that repels water based glues. This in response to questions I had about a Cedar job that fell apart - before it got out of the shop. He suggested using solvent based glues (Urethane, epoxy, etc), or wiping all the Cedar on the joints with a solvent until all the rags come clean, then gluing immediately with water based. Wiping the oil off is not reasonable in my shop, so we no longer use water based on any Cedar.


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