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Out of state hourly work

12/18/13       
David Member

I am piano refinisher. I recently did a job for a CEO of a large construction company. He was pleased with my work and asked me to help his company on a current remodeling project. Basically, we will be touching up new wood work throughout the hotel and they will pay us hourly. My 2 questions are:
What do you guys normally charge per hour for on site work and since this job is 6 hrs away , what additional charges do you charge ??
I have never done hourly work on this large of scale and am new to this territory. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Normally do not do these jobs but economy is still sluggish here.

12/27/13       #2: Out of state hourly work ...
Bruce H

I'd get paid for your ability plus travel expenses.

12/29/13       #3: Out of state hourly work ...
mike

since you got few responses I will add my 2 cents but I am not overly qualified to comment. My cabinet finisher/refinisher does the local corp. offices of a large company. He will go in 1-2 times a yr on a Saturday and touch up elevators, desks, trim..... He sometimes takes his wife to help and he treats it as extra pocket money. Think it only takes 4-6 hrs He will charge $500-700 each time but that might not be realistic in your situation. Depending on your situation I would love to get 45-75 hr incl. drive time, plus travel expenses. hotel and food expenses. I also would be careful giving an estimate as these things could easily snowball and then there would be hard feelings if it turned into a longer job than you thought. Although I do not do much work out of town a recent job out of town took probably twice as long as I had privately guessed. Luckily I had never visited the job and I billed time and material to the person who contracted it.

Having said that, this past summer I was slow and took on some sub work and only averaged $25 and $45 per hr for some cabinet install and tile work that was priced per unit so the price was set. I did not like it but it was better than earning nothing. Some might say they would not get out of bed for that but I think its good to keep busy and this fall I have plenty of profitable work again.

If you have a good relationship with the builder you might talk to him and try to come up w/ a pricing plan. If he respects your work he will want to pay fairly and your goodwill in helping him may lead to more work although I would not count on that in your pricing. hope this helps, mike

12/30/13       #4: Out of state hourly work ...
ThomasFR

23 years ago I was the "helper" on office furniture suites delivery and set up several times in Manhatten & Los Angeles. My shop had finished the custom made pieces and I was wanted on site primarily for my spot finishing/repair/touch up skills. On site work varied from 3 to 4 days to 8 days (including driving 24' straight rental truck to California from Wisconsin). Included in negotiating my billing was the reality that from the time I left my shop till I returned home, they were essentially "owning" me 24 hrs a day. I'm not home with family and other daily life duties or recreation. I felt justified wanting compensation for that sacrifice. So for comparison, if my local day rate was $300/8hrs on site. I figured 10-12 hrs/day on remote site so I billed $600/calender day including all travel time. Client was responsible for all travel & hotel costs, & I billed $40/day for meals & misc. I received an unexpected "performance bonus" with a thank you. I know "salaried" tech professionals whose employers don't want to compensate for the "sacrifice" of taking over their life 24 hrs/day, so they "comp" them with paid days off @ 1:1. You should never give away your time! Hope this is useful, good luck.


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