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how do you support a commercial bar --  1 -- 
4/17
we're bidding a local restaurant bar top and they want to a 3"-4" thick bar top to use in a traditional bar application. It is going to go on top of a steel-studded, sheet-rocked knee wall. Figuring on a 14-18" overhang, what is the best method to support the top without interfering with knee space? i'm not a bar go-er so how are these traditionally supported?
4/17 #2: how do you support a commercial bar ...
Back in the day it was with my hard earned money and then when I ran out of cash I supported it with my credit cards.
A bit of light humor on this wonderful Friday the google. Njoy the weekend and save some work for Monday.;-)
4/17 #3: how do you support a commercial bar ...
I have done two commercial bars. Both times the main bar surface was granite with a traditional wood bar rail molding. They supported it with "L" shaped steel brackets fastened to the inside of the half wall. I have never seen metal studs used in the application and I would think that they would be a lot weaker than wood ones. Ask a reputable granite guy and he should be able to give you a source for the brackets.
4/18 #4: how do you support a commercial bar ...
would something like this work...
Concealed brackets
4/18 #5: how do you support a commercial bar ...
The ones our local granite guys use are roughly 1/2" thick and they are just flat iron in an "L" Shape. They are very rigid and have almost no flex. I have never used an angle iron type bracket but as long as it works with the design it looks good to me. For one bar I laid 3/4" plywood down on top of the half wall and left spaces for the brackets. I ran the plywood out so it would catch the bottom of the bar rail molding and I had some thing to fasten to. The granite guy then installed brackets and bar top, then I put the bar molding on and a layer of 1/4" on the bottom of the plywood to cover the brackets and finish it off nicely.
4/18 #6: how do you support a commercial bar ...
I have used these, very well made. Only used them with wood framing though.
CenterlineBrackets
4/19 #7: how do you support a commercial bar ...
why do you need 14 to 18 inch over hang?
10 to 12 inches is plenty.
i think you can do 10 inches with granite with no support
nicko
4/19 #8: how do you support a commercial bar ...
sorry i see that it is not granite but still 10 dot twelve inches is plenty
nicko
4/19 #9: how do you support a commercial bar ...
Website: http://www.awwtx.com
Sheetrock over steel studs won't work, not nearly enough structure to support that bar.
4/19 #10: how do you support a commercial bar ...
The amount of overhang needed on a bar varies on its use. 10 inches is not comfortable but workable. Both bars I did, they wanted to have the potential to serve food at, so we did a 14 inch over hang. They also had nice large bar stools so that amount of over hang was needed. Alot of considerations and variables go into the design.
4/19 #11: how do you support a commercial bar ...
Most of the bars we've done have been about 14" total overhang. Gyp on steel studs doesn't seem like a good idea!
2/6 #12: how do you support a commercial bar ...
You can also try these
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8/16 #13: how do you support a commercial bar ...
Website: https://www.thegranitebracketshop.com
The Easy Bracket is a self leveling countertop support bracket.
This Self Leveling Countertop Support Bracket is mounted to the fulcrum by drilling into the four mounting screw holes is the threshold between the rear and forward ends of the bracket. These holes mainly hold the bracket in place, but may also be used to implement minute leveling adjustments during installation.
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8/16 #14: how do you support a commercial bar ...
Looking at the bracket design, I don't think it would work in the OP's situation as there's no, to not much overhang to the working side of the bar. On a side note, are you telling me that you can sit on the edge of the countertop and those four screws are going to hold the top from tipping?
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