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Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide

5/13/16       
Tim Schultz

Bob Buckley one time posted a very clear set of instructions for doing the 5 step tune up on an Altendorf slide saw. He did a very good job on it. It was very easy to understand.

Does anybody have a copy of this they could post or send to me?

Or, if anybody has any other suggestions would love to see them. This is for a 1993 F-45 with phenolic ways.

Thanks

5/13/16       #3: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Kevin Jenness

If you are talking about squaring the crosscut fence, the procedure is this:

1. cut one edge of a panel (4' square is a good size) using the crosscut fence.
2. rotate the panel counterclockwise and cut the next edge
3. repeat
4. repeat
5. rotate the panel one last time and make a cut leaving a drop that can be measured at each end with an accurate caliper. If both ends of the offcut are equal the fence is square. If not, adjust the fence and repeat the process.

Personally, I use a different method that I find a bit faster. I cut the ends of two panels , flip one over and butt the cut ends together with the original reference edges against the crosscut fence. Any deviation from square is half the gap between the ends.

5/13/16       #4: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

Thanks Kevin.

We already use the 5 cut square process to evaluate how well the saw is cutting. What I am looking for are the three preceding steps to this process, or rather, a better explanation of how to effect them.

You start with making sure the subrollers are engaging properly. Then you tune up the fence to produce something called "free-cut right". Then you adjust the beam direction to give you "free-cut left". After these steps are accomplished you evaluate and possibly tune up the sliding fence position.

I am looking for a better way to explain these processes to my crew. Bob's guide was pretty succinct and I made a copy of it when he posted it here. That was several computers ago and I cannot now find it.

5/13/16       #5: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Mark V.

Tim,

I think I have what you want in an old CMA publication. I'm going to email you two jpg's.

Mark

5/13/16       #6: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

Thanks Mark,

That's what I am looking for.

5/13/16       #7: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
pat gilbert

IIRC Mark Poole got that directly from Altendorf

or Mark V already answered your question?

5/13/16       #8: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Kevin Jenness

Tim,

Apologies for the superfluous information. If you get what you are looking for can you post it here? I have seen this "free cut" setup referred to in the past but would like to know why it is considered preferable to setting up the sliding table travel parallel to the blade and the rip fence parallel to the slider travel.

5/13/16       #9: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Mark V.

I just snapped a couple of pics from an old Cabinet Makers Association magazine with my cell phone and sent them to Tim. I'll see if I can create a pdf which will be much easier to read, but it will take a couple of days...

I too remember seeing this posted some time back, so hopefully I won't get into trouble by doing this. :-)

Mark

5/13/16       #10: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

Mark,

Please do post a PDF.
One of your two pics was very clear.
One a bit fuzzy.

I found this also described in an Altendorf manual written in the days before they had photography (it was the wooden saw era). I will try to cobble all this together to see if I can build a quintessential manual for all of us.

Kevin,

So far I have seen only the description of the free cut step. Nobody has yet described why this doesn't want to also be parallel. Would be good to know.

5/17/16       #12: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
ranliker

From my files. Not sure it's the intended target.

Click the link below to download the file included with this post.

Altendorf_Slider_Squaring.pdf

5/17/16       #13: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

That's the one Ranliker!

You're a way better photographer than Mark.

5/17/16       #14: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
ranliker

Then Mark is a poor photographer. Pitty the fellow.

5/17/16       #15: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Mark V.

Tim,

Beggars can't be choosers, besides I got it to you four days ago and the tune-up should have been already accomplished.

Now, if you were a CMA member you wouldn't have had to ask for assistance in the first place :-)

Mark

5/17/16       #16: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

Mark,

I am a CMA member. It's a very localized chapter. I am currently CEO and President.

It also looks like I am in the running for the Achievement Award, again, this year.

TS
NWCMA President, Emeritus.

5/17/16       #17: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Pat Gilbert

That sounds like a very exclusive group, how many members?

5/17/16       #18: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

About half.

5/17/16       #19: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Pat Gilbert

?

5/17/16       #20: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

Some attribution is in order.

When a newspaper reporter asked Nelson Rockefeller how many employees he had working for him he paused for a moment and said ".............about half".

5/17/16       #21: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Pat Gilbert

I guess Nelson was saying that half of the work force worked for him?

That is an exclusive group.

5/17/16       #22: Bob Buckley Altendorf Tune Up Guide ...
Tim Schultz

I think today it's about 99%.


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