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Help Setting Up Cabinet Shop12/23
We are decently capitalized and looking to setup production in Las Vegas-
Want to produce RTA Face Frame cabinets, with no particle board- similiar to the import cabinets found on kitcabinets.com or cabinets to go.
We want to concentrate on easy shaker style cabinets and be able to produce 2 kitchens per day with minimal staffing.
We want to minimize the need for highly skilled labor and utilize as much machinery as possible to automate the processes.
Looking for suggestions on machinery setup to accomplish this and spend less then 500k.
Depends on your expectations and market area. 500K? You will need every bit of that depending on your competition and desire to have some head room in said machinery for expansion. We have 1.4 million in 2 CNC routers 2 beam saws and 2 edgebanders and it is not enough. That does not account for the rest of the equipment to make it all work.
If you invested the money you could get a 5% to 10% return on that money. Your proposal is HIGH risk to get maybe a 10% return after a lot of hard work.
From an entrepreneurial perspective, why do you think the market wants a cabinet shop in Las Vegas?
Most would prefer to buy American if the price is close to the same and quality is there. We believe we can achieve this. As to Las Vegas, here is the logical choice for me since I have some distribution here and in Phoenix, and have an existing management structure to assist.
We want to focus on RTA cabinets and not get into the custom market.
Another driving factor is our desire to create decent jobs here and take back some factory jobs from China. We are not after crazy margins, just enough for something to be left over after paying all expenses.
Have you seen anyone else do this in Las Vegas?
Its just custom shops and commercial cabinet shops. There are only a handful of US based RTA cabinet shops. Solid is one, Conestoga is another.
Decore is another. I toured their shop decades ago the machinery they had was in the 10s of millions. It must be much more now. They have delivered very predictably for decades. Including Las Vegas.
The fact that no one is doing it in Las Vegas would give me pause.
It doesn't sound like you have done enough research.
Decore started in the mid 60s, and grew with the southern Calif baby boom.
I appreciate what your saying, but my situation is quite different as my real estate development company provides enough purchasing power to guarantee a level of sales to tread water.
The real question is what equipment recommendations you would have with my goals in mind.
The usual, router, edgebander, edge drill, software. Since you want to do RTA, you may want to look at Tenon Cam or the dowel setup that some posted about on this forum. Also for big volume you may want to look at Keytrix, and Cadcode.
Please tell me more about developing and how you got the into that?
Not sure why you want to do face frames. more labor and equipment than euro box and the customer is mostly concerned with face appearance. I'm predigest because my shop is commercial only and therefore frameless only. You will spend more labor making only the face frame than I do making a complete cabinet. At any rate there are many equipment manufacturers that can give you recommendations to chose from. Material handling is where much labor can be wasted, especially on a face frame line. Make to order, do not build to inventory. Hardwood parts are especially prone to degrade siting on a shelf. LV will require a humidity controlled shop/warehouse.