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Frameless ADA sink cabinet9/13
I am new to the commercial world and am wondering how all of you build your sink cabinets when they have to be ada compliant. Also, they want to have a dishwasher in the break room. How do you make that work when the counter height can't be above 34"?
Usually sloped style vanities (whole frame/or just simple panel attached on angle with cleats) are typical in the commercial world. If it's being specified shown as a cabinet that goes to the floor you can do the toe kick integrated into the doors and no bottom panel so that you can roll into the cabinet. Use something like quick toe.
There are ADA compliant dishwashers available. However if they don't have one specified I've often to run into situations where the architect will just step the counter up at the dishwasher to 36" and then step it back down if the countertop continues beyond. ADA compliant design *should* be the responsibility of the architect.
Still learning ourselves, but we've had success with the following;
We've done doors with attached to kicks, but I'm not a fan of this solution. We recommend that the sink be placed in the middle of the run of cabinets. This allows access from the side of the wheelchair, and doesn't require a sink that you can roll under in a wheelchair. I can't remember how much space is required on each side of the sink to apply.
I agree that the responsibility is not on you, but the architect.
There is side access ADA and front access ADA, not all uses allow side access.
Some area's require 30" clear, some 36" with the doors open; some use the slanted apron, some the doors with attached toe kick.
Some areas don't allow over 24" edge of top to back wall.
Multi-family residential often do a convertible cabinet with a removable floor and kick, and a slanted apron behind doors. So they can a) remove the floor for future front access , and b) removes the doors if its more convenient
The rules change by type of use, who the tenant/owner is and how and what version of the ADA the local entity enforces.
In CA we don't build over 34" to TOP of SINK or TOP whichever is higher.
When we were doing nationwide store fixtures the same ADA cash desk or serving line had about 15 variations by destination.
There are no hard rules, there are visual guides available but the safest is always the most restrictive interpretation (every sink, every top, front access).
Office tops that serve customers are different and vary by type of transaction.
Thanks for all the responses. I am definitely going to look into those flying toe kicks. I don't have time to order them for this job but maybe for the future.
I must be missing something - a quick Google produced voluminous responses of 32 or 32.5" dishwashers specificaly made/sold intended to meet ADA in 34" counters with pics. I no longer have my huge binder (retired) published by the Gov, but don't they have drawings in there as for most all the other accommodations?