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Door and frame thickness11/14
Have an odd job coming up for a local/friend. We are planning to run a kitchen for them out of some Sassafras sawn from their property. Killer is it was sawn very thin and its looking like were going to struggle to hit .700" for sticking and panels. We only have a couple of tall doors in the job that are pantry pullouts so they will have full support behind them.
Sorry for such a simple question but I worry when things get a good bit below .750 for aesthetics and stability/durability. Just wondering if missing something or if I we're over thinking.
Any input is appreciated.
I don't think it will be a problem. Let the customer know of your concerns and relieve you of liability if problems show up later related to thin material.
You will have to reset shapers for making thinner doors and don't drill through the front of the door edge profile if using euro hinges.
One way to possibly end up at a thicker final thickness is to not fully plane the lumber. Leave some mill marks and take them out at final sanding time when running the through the widebelt.
This is not about the wood thickness. Have you ever worked with Sassafras before? I built a table once and the wood has a terrible odor when cutting and sanding. It smelt very similar to vomit. It would almost make me sick. Beautiful wood but I swore that I would NEVER use it again.
Bob, I built one cabinet with sassafras years ago. It had an intriguing, spicy smell, quite pleasant I thought. Perhaps the material you dealt with was funky from poor handling, or maybe I got lucky. It would be worth while to mill a sample before doing a large project.
Mark, I would be ok with 11/16"" net but no less. I bet you will spend a bit on extra labor eking out the thickness. Could you use the client's lumber for panels and source some other stock for door frames? Is sassafras common in your neck of the woods?
Kevin, and Bob,
Our experience with Sassafras is more like Kevin's. It has a pleasing smell when machining. Its similar to, but maybe better than, milling a large run of Cherry. Fills the shop with a nice aroma.
I have no issues whatsoever with the smell of sassafras (we work with it all the time and have about 2MBF of 6/4 sitting outside waiting for a chair run).
My concern was with the thickness. We have never gone this far below .750" for cabinet doors. Im not concerned about our construction but more about how we will feel about the the visual weight and body of the cabinet.
Its beautiful material. And a dream to work with. Machines easily, sands like a dream, tearout is a joke but this material being so thin will only see the sander.... Its kind of soft which I dont care for, but....
And Kevin yes, Sassafras grows commonly here though not often in large diameters and straight. It tends to be a soft fast growing wood so its searching for the sun and tends to be a bit less than straight out of the tree.
That said, this lot of material came from large trees (larger than any sassafras Ive seen) and is extremely dimensionally stable. Some of the boards are 10" wide.
We saw a lot of timber and Ive not had a sassafras tree that would make a 10" board.
Watch the screws on the hinges if you use screw on and on drawer fronts.