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Microvellum vs. Wood Cad Cam or bCabinet6/12
Okay ..... nine months later and still looking for input. For those of you using any of the three software packages listed above I'd love to hear about your experiences to date and what software you feel is working well and why. MicoV and Wood CAD/Cam are both autocad based. Excellent But which is more up to date with the times. What is the ease of use. bCabinet is not autocad based and has few users in the US so far But looks impressive. Thanks for any and all input.
I've been burned once on software that wasn't ready for prime time, so I'm trying not to go down that road again.
Biesse Rover B flat table shows up in two weeks!
what are you planning on building?
We do high end custom residential.
Every single job is different than the last. Box construction methods remain the same more or less but face configuration changes from one thing to the next constantly. We might be doing a french provincial bath one day with decorative base moulding and decorative feet and an ultra modern contemporary kitchen the next project.
Last time I looked at woodcad/cam it was not even acceptable for residential (IWF 2014) Never heard of to many success stories about MV either, but some one must be using it..
If you're doing high end custom residential, why isn't cabinetvision on the list? I know MV has come a long way in the face frame cabinets arena, but I have no first hand experience in the new face frame library.
What requirements do you have for output? Are you drawing and only need drawings, or do you need labels, reports, CNC output, etc?
Ive used Microvellum for a long time, its really expensive 22k to 40k depending on all the options. It works with Biesse flat table fine. I shifted from cabinetware to microvellum around 2005. I have watched some videos on WoodCad Cam it looks to have some promising features and Im sure with both you could test drive before you buy to some extent. other than the learning curve. Cabinetvision is the other big player out there. I would guess it has the majority of the residential market but its not autocad based. But I think all three are minimum 22k. Another low budget look might be Mozaik, but it only works with flat table. I hope to go to Atlanta IWF this year and review them all again. Curious why did you decide on a Biesse? I have ran three of them, they are good quality, but minimum fun to operate.
We have been a MV shop for years but have recently begun researching moving away from MV. We've had initial presentations from both WoodCAD/CAM and CabinetVision. Both systems appear to be much more user friendly when customizing cabinets than MV. My biggest gripes about MV are dealing with the formulas/spreadsheets/lookup tables when you need to customize something and also whenever an update comes out (every other month or so) it fixes some things and trashes other things that were previously working. They seem to use their customer base as beta testers whenever they make a change. We are going to IWF to specifically look at software to replace MV.
The pricing on all 3 seems to be relatively equal. It all depends on how many machines you need to output to and how many users you have.
we using Woodcad cam fro 1 1/2 years now and its working great, you get one of the best custom service we ever had from any company the reply to a email in 30- 45min or the call you back to help you to fix a problem or help you with a solution.
To everyone who has responded .... many thanks for your thoughts! I really appreciate it and have been evaluating all the different software packages mentioned and now CV due to the comments above. One software will finally stand out. Not there quite yet but close.
The new Biesse 5 Axis is on the floor and it is awesome. bSolid is a pretty good solution for now but we need to strap on our big boy pants and step up.
Thanks for the input everyone.