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Biesse bSolid or Wood CAD Cam10/16
Is anyone running the new bSolid software from Biesse or Wood CAD CAM? I'm curious how good these packages are for high end residential work where everything is different all the time.
From what I can see of Wood CAD CAM, building boxes with flat doors is easy but five piece doors are not available.
The canned software demos from the sales guys show you the cool stuff but doesn't show you the real nuts and bolts of the software.
I have also seen the demos at trade shows and they were nice. The Bsolid seemed more like a product that would work with the design software, it was not a cabinet program from what i saw.
it was If i were you i would also reseach Micro Vellum and Cabinet Vision. From what i know they are a little more evolved for what you are looking to do.
The Bsolid Manual is about 630 pages and very extensive.
At the AWFS show we had them do a sample of a drawing of a wood product with metal, wood and glass parts and export the 3d geometry for the metal bits so we could send the metal out to be made that fit to the wood. It seems like a very well thought out program.
This was more a what if I wanted to do this question than actually trying to solve a business problem but they were able to do it on the fly.
For just machining parts it seems like a very good program, if you need other information that manufacturing software has then you need a combination of solutions.
Our intent is to start with a 2 or 3D ACAD drawing and then apply 4th and 5 axis tool paths in Bsolid.
Once a machine ships you can get the software so we don't have it yet.
They showed us the B cabinet program at AWFS this year that looks pretty slick. Not sure about the 14-22k price tag we got quoted.
as i know the b cabinet is spazio(italy software)
if you want poerfull softwre
Ive been using bSolid for about 6 months now. I was trained by Biesse at their Anaheim showroom. I am not a huge fan. I also use vCarve, adobe illustrator, and Fusion 360. Bsolid is glossy on the surface but can some strange limitations, and un-intuitive modes of operation if you have used a lot of other vector based design systems. I currently do all my vector drawling in vCarve and then import them into bSolid for CAM because bSolids drawling tools are so un-intuitive. I am currently frustrated with bSolid because I cannot seem to find a combine vector function that works... anyone know what im doing wrong or if this function is actually possible? In just about any other vector drawling program I select the two overlapping vectors and hit combine... this does not seem to be possible in bSolid. FRUSTRATING.
Biesse Bsolid = Hell portal
I think you compare something totally different here.
This is not a design package like Cabinet Vision (fine for kitchens, but I would not consider it for commercial jobs or shop fitting - let's say for anything you need real CAD), Microvellum or WOOD CAD CAM.
There are plenty of other packages around, some look good, some are cheap - most of this alternatives will lack a good machine integration.
Microvellum and WOOD CAD CAM are similar in the basics (based on Autodesk AutoCAD as front end, but with customized menus to make design and operation as easy as possible, also provide good libraries to start with which can be customized by yourself).
WOOD CAD CAM does not offer full 3D design, but also "multiple parts". You can create one part (like a door, but actually any kind of part) from multiple single parts (which can be all shaped and change based on your rules in parametric ways with the change of the part size.
I agree with the previous comment that BIESSE's BCabinet software is not playing in the same league. I am sure it is good enough for some customers, but for more serious designs I would look only for solutions with CAD capabilities which are also seamless converted to any brand machine program.