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Hey everyone! First post!
I'm curious to know thoughts or experiences on the Holzher 7505 or Morbidelli N10
We currently have the Cosmec conquest 250
Thanks in advance
We have had the Morbidelli N100 for about 7 months and it has been great. The auto lube leaked and they sent us a new one. Now it is leaking very little. It doesn't cause any problems though and didn't cause any down time other than the 10 minutes to replace it. Other than that we haven't had any problems and I would buy it again.
We also got the push off table which is amazing and I would not buy it without.
A lot comes down to information and knowledge. You may simply not know what you don't know. I had a great local Biesse rep, of course a salesmen for equipment also but the actual Biesse rep was tremendously helpful as he had resources available that I would never have access to.
Overall my experience with the green has been phenomenal. Their Bsolid software (which was another on site product specific training) is awesome, the way it integrates with CV is awesome, the precision of the machine and cycle time engineering is awesome. I am a very happy camper. Please reach out if there is anything I can help you with. I still have resources if your looking to move the Cosmec.
We also went with a sweep/pushoff table. I would agree with Ryan that it was a game changer for us. If you have the ability to batch jobs or improve process, this is a huge benefit for seemingly a small price tag.
Thanks for all the quick responses!
The cosmec has been mostly good to us. A few minor things throughout the years. My main complaint would also be the lack of support. Not to mention the virtual PC we need to make windows so compatible.
I'd definitely like to check some more into the machines. Thanks for the input of the unloaders or pusher. We will be spending the extra little bit on it. What about the auto loader? Thoughts?
I like the Holzher 7505, but the 5 axis of the 7535 has me intrigued as well.
The virtual pc! Your giving me PTSD reminding me of all that!
I cant believe it was just 7 months ago we cut our last job on the Cosmec.
Loader: Mainly our work hours/wk are not justifying a loader. We are not huge volume or panel count/wk. There are industy stats on typical shifts/sheets/hours per week that the manufacturers can provide for you. If you are in a tier that calls for that, you are in for some exponential cycle time benefits. Otherwise a vacuum lift is like 15k? I found a poor mans way to manual load that is as fast as a lift, but I happened to have the space near machine to cantilever rack material all over.
If your going to go auto loader, it would be difficult to stomach NOT going with the sticker putter onner also***
I don't see how the autoloader is that great unless you have a auto label. We never had a forklift but we bought a used one a week before the CNC came in. We have pallet racks with our plywood close to the machine and the forklift picks it up and is parked right beside the CNC. It is easy to slide a sheet off of the forklift and onto the CNC. The push off table saves tons of time because it cleans the table and once you load the next sheet is when you sort the parts.
Yes, that 7535 looks really nice. We have a promaster 7225, mainly for stair parts. We unfortunately have had the same issues as everyone else- customer service. It has taken us almost 2 years to get running full swing 5 axis, but we jumped in both feet with no previous knowledge. It was sometimes frustrating, but finally paying off. Our machine seems to be very good, only one thing I would change would be an upgraded vacuum pump, as I sometimes have holding issues with open grained wood and aggressive cutting.
is yours scm it still use the hand remote like the previus scm?
Our SCM has the handheld remote but it doesn't do much. 98% of everything is done on the computer.
The handheld does almost nothing now. All of their CNCs come with a computer running a full version of windows. The only thing we ever use it for is an extra emergency stop and you can raise and lower the dust hood. There is really no reason that they need to even provide it anymore. They have removed almost everything from it.
I too bought a Biesse machine and I am impressed at the service. They put a lot of effort in helping customers keep machine up and running. They offer a 5 year parts warranty which tells me they have faith in their machine. Free teamviewer support too. That is a big plus.
I don't like the idea of sending American money to Italy..... but that is what I did.
I got a edgebander, by the way.
Don't know if this helps any , asit's a pod and rail machine, but I was just looking at resell cnc and this popped up for $125,000
Sorry about the sloppy message above, It's a 5 axis Holzher, the same one I run at work, VERY capable machine, comes with HOPS, Campus, and Cabinet control.
We also purchased a Biesse 2 years ago. Running a Rover S 5x12.
N100 vs 7505 is simple.
Do any of you have a sorce for replacement parts for the cosmec? I know holzer has pretty much stopped providing any assistance with these machines.