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dark brown finish on cherry4/16
Looking to eliminate the red in cherry kitchen cabinets. Think chocolate or med-dark walnut. Looking for ideas. I looked at a craftmaid cabinet color display and was amazed at the variety of colors available in what thet refer to as "cherry wood" cabinets. Everything from almost black, to a "NATURAL" finish that looked like clear water base on maple. Of the about 20 samples of cherry wood cabinets, only a few had any hint of red to them. Some looked like walnut, some even resembled hickory.
I have made a lot of cabinets where the
I've been able to eliminate the red by dyeing with a 10:1 mix of SW brown dye concentrate into dna, pre-seal then stain with color of your choice...I've used the SW BAC stain in Golden Hickory with good results for this.
I often put a few drops (takes a little trial and error for right amount, less is better) of green dye in my stain/dye/color if I want to eliminate the red in a finish. Even a "brown" color will still often leave some of the red in cherry, especially when the color begins to change.
Looks good jim. I cant really tell from the picture, but is there any hint if red in the cabinets? I am told that the red will eventually take over any attempt to mask it.
Like Jim, I used a SW BAC Wiping Stain on a cherry vanity I recently built to match a customer sample that was walnut colored. I started with a stock color (can't remember which one but can find out if needed) but we had to add quite a bit of green dye to it to eliminate all the red.
Yes, the red does come back over time.
Yellow----opposite is purple
Think of it this way. If you take the 3 primary colors of red, blue and yellow and combine them in precisely equal parts you will get what I call perfect brown.
You can then tweak the browns that comprise nearly every stain color from Walnut to Maple by adjusting the ratio of those 3 colors. If you are trying to reduce the red then you would add some additional blue and yellow(Green).
One of the best practical lessons on color you can do is to take those colors as I listed above and then split into several different cups and then start adding different amounts of different combinations in the different cups to see how the color shifts. Then experiment with diluting those colors to see how the color intensity changes.
OK, so I am going to try a thin wash of green trans tint dye in DNA. Think I should seal first, or apply the dye to the bare wood?
Joe, "direct dye" is VERY dangerous and not many people can do it successfully. You're always best to start with a base stain, seal, then put a mixture of dye, thinner and clear lacquer together 30/60/10
Here's the deal with cherry. If you don't like the color, just wait six months. If you want to stain it, wait a year. It keeps changing color for quite a long time. If you can put it in a UV-protected room it will happen much more slowly. For other species, the best way to take the red out is to use green. Most walnut stains have a greenish tint, so that is the one to use on most species.
There is a company in Maine the makes and sells cherry furniture and cabinetry. Every piece in their showroom is a different color. The darker and deeper colors have been there the longest. Leave it alone and wait a year.