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Oak grain with solid white f8nish9/22
I had a customer who wants an entertainment center and the finish they want is a solid white color with no color showing through but the texture of the grain still showing. I have done this with black before using lacquer dye and SW CV with good luck but never in white. The guy that knows his stuff at SW is gone for a couple days so the other guys gave me KEM Aqua plus and tinted it. I am working on a sample for the customer right now but does anyone have a good suggestion or is this the best path to take? Thanks, Matt
personally i like to use sherwin williams P63W9 Mono White Vinyl Basecoat. Spray, scuff, clear coat. May need 2 applications of the basecoat depending on coverage. Dilute the p63 with 10-20% acetone. it dries almost instantly, ready to scuff in just a minute or 2
Are you going to do this in a solvent based material or water based.The Kem-Aqua is a water based material if memory serves me.The Black job sounds like you completed it in a solvent based material.
It will take more time to complete and more time until your customer can use the Entertainment Center than if you completed it using a solvent based material like Kevin mentioned.
Most counter help at Paint Stores know about Paint but your fortunate to have someone who knows about Finishing. In my opinion the Aqua material is not the easiest and most productive way to go.
Until your finish guy gets back behind the counter Id trust in Kevin's plan of attack over the Kem-Aqua route.
Traditional tinted lacquer, thin the material to get minimum build, then clear coat. I'd definitely provide a large sample, because in white the effect is not going to be as bold as in black. You may want to do a glazed sample to kick the open grain as well.
Thanks for the replies. I finnally got ahold of the guy that knows his stuff and he got me a gallon of the white vinyl comming. They don't stock alot of cabinet grade products at my local SW out side of the BCA stains, WW CV, and a few others. I guess thats why both of the guys working today didn't know where to steer me. Thank god for Woodweb. On a side note, where is a good place to educate oneself on various products and technics for the budding finisher? thanks, Matt
Sorry to steer this post off topic but was very curious with Kevin's approach. Kevin, are you using this SW P63 undercoater for all of your pigmented finishes, even on maple, MDF, etc.? I like the water white conversion varnish from SW but have mixed feelings with the coverage from the pigmented conversion varnish. Local SW rep. said I couldn't tint the clear vinyl sealer I currently use, suggested a kemvar surfacer E63 W50. Can the vinyl base coat be used under pigmented CV to help prevent sand through and shadow lines from the topcoat?
Absolutely not! i do not use the vinyl basecoat for my pigmented finishes. I use the same as you mentioned. E63W50 Primer/Surfacer is the best in the business in my opinion. And the H66 CV is topnotch as well. However, the op was seeking a way to retain as much grain as possible. And i have had great success with the P63W9 in this application. It is ultra low build, fast drying, and can be catalyzed to use with other systems (ie CV.) if im using a lacquer topcoat, not necessary to catalyze. Im not talking about tinting vinyl sealer, im talking about SHER-WOOD® Vinyl Basecoat System