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This question is more about your personnal preferences rather than technical but do you guy always use dye when staining wood even if just a little bit.
So dye change a lot when the topcoat is added. The dye may look dark and muddy but when topcoat is added it gets very light. If I apply more they do get darker but also give a very metallic or shiny look to the wood. The color also seems to vary greatly when exposed to bright lights and the darker colors are almost always hazing green or red tone.
Even if I apply a wiping stain over it it keep this shiny look.
I have found that I almost prefer using only a wiping stain. then topcoat with CV with added pigment (not dye) to darken the color. I seems to give a more organic look and the color does not vary depending on the angle you look at the piece.
I am not trying to start a war as there mist be hundrerd of ways to achieve beautifull finishes. I was wondering if people sometime use only wiping stains or they invariably add dye to the staining process even if it is very lightly
A lot of stains have both dye and pigment stain in them. Dye for surface color and pigment to go in the pores and accent the growth rings. I only dye when the call is for unusual colors.
thanks rich for your answer.
When you use dye is there a way to minimize that almost metallic/shiny look to color and the fact that it change depending on the angle you watch your piece
That look is usually color dependent, not every color of dye will do that. Maybe add a little bit of toner to the first clear coat to kill that. Experiment on scrap of course!
I have uploaded a pic of the look I am striving for. It's a floor but you can get the idea. I got a real sample of a similar floor but could not get a good quality pic myself.
The sheen must me a satin a max and the stain does not change whatever the angle you look at it so I doubt a dye stain was used.
I think I could get that look by using only a wiping stain on the wood itself then use pigments and Dye in the topcoat itself. That way I could keep the clarity to a maximum
Hi Pascal !
thanks for your input mauricio I was suspecting that no dye stain was involed in this schedule.
I already have black wiping stain on hands but with ash the brown yellow still show a lot after the wiping stain.
although I like the transparency of dyed topcoats I will probably add solvent pigments to the first cv coat since they seem to give a richer black. I'll maybe dye the other coats depending on the results to not obscure too much
Pascal, if you add some blueish red colorant to your black wipe stain, it will kill the greenish yellow you have