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I am considering the costs and benefits of using some wood posts to make a fence. I want to attach a non climbable galvanized wire ( horse wire ) attached to the posts with u nails or fence staples to keep people out of a business area. The more expensive the fence the more the property taxes are. I need advice on the type of wooden fence posts to use. I used some 4x4 pressure treated SYP that was labeled for ground contact and sold by a major advertiser on TV. After about 4 years in the southern heat and rain in some sandy soil they just fell over at the ground level. These posts I was experimenting with were not even attached to anything. There was no windload or fence or anything pushing on them. I thought maybe the treatment was not good and termites ate them. On close inspection, there were no termites involved. The posts had just decayed in the ground and softened. These posts were bought about 4 years ago and were treated with the new pressure treatment that the major home improvement stores have done to their pressure treated wood. Any ideas ? Are the wood posts sold by farm stores any better ? Should I buy the farm posts and then treat them with a chemical solution myself for added preservation ? I do not want to pollute the ground in case their winds up being a soil test in the future if I sell the land. Should I just go with metal T posts ?
That is an interesting problem - the government will tax you if you build a nice fence, if you don't, then insurance will get you and for some reason you are set up in a place where you need security.
I would go with a 12 foot tall brick wall topped with concertina wire. Include towers and guards with machine guns and spot lights to enhance the overall effect.
Dogs and a moat are optional.
Go get Black Locust fence posts.
There's an old joke the farmers tell... Put in a Black Locust fence post. 50 years later, the hole will be gone, but the post will be there.
A properly treated post should last for 50 years easily.
Your posts were not properly treated. Did they have the AWPB or AWPA sticker on them? It sounds like that with the rapid failure, the treatment was green colored water. An untreated post would last as long as your posts.
Note that we have had several instances of this rapid failure when the greater was a fraud.
If you saved the sticker or if it is still in the ground, It should have the treating mill's number on it. You should be able to make a claim.
Even if the treatment was actually for above ground, this rapid failure points to no treatment at all.
Hello friends and my expert friend the wood doctor !
I can tell you that they still have a sticker on them because I left that end out of the ground in case something like this happened. I do not know if I can still read it all though, due to the sun damage. I wish I had recorded the warranty information but I did not. If you email me privately Doc, I can tell you the brand and try to get you more sticker information.
Check to see if you can find a better source of treated wood. The post should last 30 years.
Yes, highly recommend Black Locust for your fence posts. We install a lot of split rail fences in Santa Fe the strength of these posts is 2480 PSI. We use it for all our split rail fences. Horses will kick boards or rails off posts all the time, and Black Locust is very heavy and very hard, so is pretty resistant to high shock, decay, termites, rot, you name it. Should last a very long time (70-90 years depending on your region climate)