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Buying a jointer: SCMI vs. Delta Invicta6/27
I'm in the market for a new jointer. We are a group woodshop in NYC. There's already a 16" SCMI jointer here but a couple of businesses including myself are getting busier, quickly, and I'm going to supplement some of our existing machines.
I'm looking at a couple of used jointers that are available locally right now on Clist. One is a SCMI F3A 12" asking price $2000. The other is Delta Invicta RJ42 for $2250.
I love the idea of the extra width, but was wondering if anyone has experience comparing these two machines/makes. I know the Invicta stuff is supposed to be good but wondering if I'll find the SCMI easier to maintain, set up, etc. Or if one or the other might offer further longevity. Btw, the end game is to get a new Byrd head for whichever machine I purchase, and there's really no price difference between the cutter heads for the two jointers.
A rough estimate would be that 250-400 BF of material will get pushed through the machine a month. Thanks!
If you are planning to upgrade the butterhead anyway why aren't you looking at old American iron like Oliver?
For what it is worth I originally intended to buy an SCMI jointer at the Atlanta show but was able to compare it with a Martin in the same building. The Martin was three times the price but a much better value.
The Martin bed is one piece construction. The SCMI used heavy steel for the cast parts but when it got to the part closest to the cutterhead switched to some metal that reminded me of what they make beer cans out of.
It reminds me of when the altendorf salesman tried to explain all the plastic by saying it's safe enough for aviation.
I'd definitely be interested in an old machine if one had popped up locally. The planer I'm buying is an 18" Northfield #2. I've seen a 12" Northfield light duty jointer for $1600 online, but I'd have to pay for freight. Ideally I'm looking for something that wouldn't cost me more than a few hundred to go and pickup myself (within a couple hrs of NYC).
Do you think you'd get more for your money from an old oliver/northfield etc. as compared to a newer but still used euro machine?
Jointers are pretty simple machines so I think I'd go for the Delta and gain some capacity. The designs should be pretty similar as the Invicta jointers maintained the design as the previous generation of Delta which were made by……SCM;)
But really scrutinize the fence. I've had "old USA" made jointers before where the fence was horrible. I have a SAC 12" and the fence is poor to fair. You don't want to have to check and adjust it every time it gets bumped.