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"space creating bed" for small space living

Listing #1279   Listed on: 05/08/2008

Company Name: Double Space Bed Systems

Contact Name:   John Gudenkauf
This is my new furniture system for that I have designed (prototypes) in my shop over the last 16 months, we hope to get it manufactured on a large scale in the near future. It is a free standing convertible unit,uses any style of stansdard size mattress and has a completely manual movement that I designed and patented. The 1st prototype is made of white pine and birch panels, and the 2nd is steel tubing with water base finished birch ply panel inserts. My goal is to make a "KIT" (consisting of an innerframework, mechanical components and assembly materials)available to other carpenters, cabinetshops etc. to be combined with their outer panels to make a wide variety of styles, similar to the kits that wallbeds companies offer. You can see videos of the beds in motion and view info at:

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bed in raised / stowed position

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computer desk and base shelving

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2nd prototype bed in raised stowed position

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base cabinetry w/shelving

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concept image: Reading Nook

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bed in lowered position

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bed in lowered sleep position

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close up view, steel tube frame with stained and finished birch insert panel

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concept image: bedroom / vanity

Viewer Comments:

Posted By: Bob     [05/08/2008]
I like the couch version, looks very cool. I wouldn't want to sit under it though unless there is some really safe bar/bolt that I know will never come out accidentally, I bet it would hurt quite a bit if it the bed fell on your head. Otherwise looks very cool.

Posted By: bobbie     [05/08/2008]

Posted By: john Gudenkauf     [05/09/2008]
About the concern of the bed falling; the mechanical components are rated at 8x the weight load limit, and more than 25 times the ultimate strenght (and thats for the weakest link). The beds movement is balanced, so the bed naturally stays up without bars or bolts and the only latch is there to keep the bed down to assist with mattress and bedding changes, thus avoiding unwanted upward movement when you lift the mattress. There is no latching in its raised position, this is done to prevent people from using it as a storage platform and creating real fall hazards. It is probably the safest convertible bed (to be soon) on the market, especially as there is absolutely no exposed moving parts.

Posted By: Josh Weltman     [05/14/2008]
Very innovative and creative. Congratulations and best wishes for success. These are just the types of products I love. Will they be made in the US? Please keep me posted as I'd like to offer your products to my customers and do some with reclaimed wood.

Posted By: John Gudenkauf     [05/15/2008]
The bed system will be made in Tucson, AZ - USA. I am trying to find as many US components to use in it as well, which currently is around 85% US made parts. My website has a lot of information on this and other topics. Thanks for your comment Josh, I saw your work on your web site; it is wonderful that you are giving that beautiful lumber a new life with some great looking finished results, the Kit I will offer in the near furture will work good and easily with any outer cladding as well.

Posted By: Jim king     [05/23/2008]
there is not a lot of things I see on here that impress me other the quality of craftsmanship involved in some of the furniture or cabinets but this is very ingenius and impressive.. In fact i kinda wish i had thought of it .. LOL .. best of luck with it my friend.. the design looks like it would hold a good market in europe.. Once you start moving a few I would look itno a low budget design that can be bulk made for college dorms... endless market possabilities.. congratulations.

Posted By: John Gudenkauf     [05/24/2008]
Thanks for your comment Jim, I appreciate the support!. There are a couple of these styles of beds that have debuted in Europe over the last few months, although they have to be substantially mounted to the wall and ceiling, or built in to the structure. I have designed a base model that I am gearing towards college, firehouse and military dormitories.

Posted By: Sianystarr     [06/05/2008]
This is amazing and I need one for me sons room now!

Posted By: Joseph     [06/26/2008]
I love your concept!
I went looking for and all I got was a marketing company out of NY. Did you lose your domain name?

Posted By: John Gudenkauf     [06/26/2008]
Thank you for your comment and interest in my bed system. The web site is , I believe that you left out the beds in the url.

Also, I am going to have pricing for the Hardware Kits (that will allow other carpenters, and businesses to build their own styles of Double Space Beds) on the web site within a few days.

Posted By: brew     [07/19/2008]
Looks very nice, only thing I would change would be to make a removable, or flip out of the panel to cover the mattress when it is in the raised position. It would look much more finished, and cleaner IMHO. But I do really like the concept.

Posted By: Felicity     [06/13/2011]
Awesome design...I was actually designing something similar but over the top of a dining booth with table that doubles as a coffee table. My motivation comes from wanting low cost 1 room housing for africans. Many families here can only afford to rent 1 room at less than $20 per month. I'd love to see a low cost solution for them to have some comfort.

Posted By: Tanaika Bisschop     [08/09/2014]
Are these available in Canada? im very interested in the vanity version and would love to get a price!

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