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what is this saw?

4/20/18       
macks Member

i fell into this hole called watching woodworking videos on youtube and i fell in love with this saw. im sure someone here can tell me what it is and all the problems with it. thanks!


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4/20/18       #2: what is this saw? ...
JR Rutter Member

I don't think that I would let anyone but myself use a manual rip saw, and I'm not sure that I would want to either...

I was thinking: "Huh, guess you don't need a bunch of fancy equipment to scratch out a living in woodworking." Then winced at the tight panel boards defeating the whole purpose of T&G and the glued on bracing. Here in the States, that's a recipe for getting sued when it splits over winter or buckles over summer. Is UK weather so uniformly damp and dreary that this doesn't happen, or do customers accept these sorts of failures as normal?

4/20/18       #3: what is this saw? ...
David R Sochar Member

Did anyone notice how many digits this guy has left?

What happens when he is at the end of the rip and his hand(?) has to go past that blade, and there is no support out at the end of that saw?

Older American saws pre Rockwell adjusted the blade height by rising or lowering a table hinged at the back. The blade did not tilt, but the table did! Dangerous stuff. Those were real men back then. They were also mutilated.

4/20/18       #4: what is this saw? ...
Hen Bob Member

As David just said..

Could you imagine running a piece of wood past a blade with the table tilted to 45 degrees!! Work safe everyone.

4/20/18       #5: what is this saw? ...
Adam

Its obviously European. The Americans didn't start using proper riving knives until 10 years ago.

It looks exactly like the Aussie door shop I visited a decade ago. They had all the same gear. The saw, tenoner, huge heavy clamps. Still doing the ugly visible wedged tenon. They build all of their doors & windows out of wrc. The end grain looks terrible sticking out the side of the door.

The saw is pretty much as scary as it looks in the pic. I'm thinking its such a pain in the ass to raise and lower it for blade changing that they leave it up all the time. Its a 14" blade. So you've got 6"+ unguarded.

Hard to say if that is more or less dangerous than the free handing on shaper. The saw makes cleaner cuts of your appendages...shaper not so much.

I also noticed that the guy has one of those dual tapes. He's using the inch scale. AU & UK are still in both scale camps. They are 1/3rd metric, 1/3rd inch, and 1/3rd fake metric(inch sizes labeled to the nearest mm like 32mm(1 1/4").

Thanks for the entertaining video.

4/20/18       #6: what is this saw? ...
rich c.

Kinda looks like the Yates American cast oval emblem on the blade door, but no idea about the machine.

4/21/18       #7: what is this saw? ...
Macks

You all make good points. I like the idea of it because it’s got a small footprint and in our shop we don’t use very much sheet goods therefore the rest of the table usually becomes a shelf for scraps and other accessories. Also I made a rule that we always use a power feeder.

4/21/18       #8: what is this saw? ...
Hen Bob Member

If a small footprint is your goal, Just take the big extension table off a regular saw and cut the fence down.. Our standard table saw only rips 9" wide, the rest gets done on the slider or beam saw

4/22/18       #9: what is this saw? ...
Joe Calhoon

That is a old UK style rip saw. I had alway been curious about those saws and when we toured shops in the UK I asked about them. All the owners said they are very dangerous and most shops do not use them especially with employees.

One shop that had been in the family for several generations had one in a shed where the grandfather still did some work. He started it up. All I can say is I am glad I don’t have to use one. I think this was pretty much a UK design with the high blade and very short fence. I have never seen these in mainland Europe.


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4/22/18       #10: what is this saw? ...
keelhauled Member

Its 100% a Robinson. Olde English design.
I have one and would say its more accurate than any of the newer machines I have. Its got DC braking now but other than that its the exact same bog standard that came out of the factory 50+ yrs ago.
The table doesnt hinge but moves up and down on dovetail slides.
Once greased up theres very little effort required but granted gravity helps to raise the blade as the whole table top moves down.
The table or the spindle does not tilt but the fence tilts to about 60 degrees.
Overall a very good saw that saws square 100% of the time.
For most jobs the fence doesnt need to extend past the blade but I have a selection of longer auxillaries if needs be

1/20/21       #11: what is this saw? ...
Dusty Member

I have no idea what is this, lol. Looks like a miter saw to me? I might have seen it on a website like this thetoolscout.com when I was looking to buy one. Actually, I was between buying a table saw or a miter saw. But today I think I made the right choice by buying a miter saw. It's perfect for my work. Its accurate cuts are amazing and the prices are not even that high, if you ask me. Depends on everyone's preferences and budget too. But in my opinion, they're the best choice if you have to make short and precise cuts. Otherwise, a table saw might be better because they can cut larger materials.

https://thetoolscout.com/table-saw-vs-mi


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