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Exterior Dutch door weather strip

4/18/22       
Matt Calnen

Hello all, I have to make 2 in swing exterior Dutch doors. Does anyone have a good weather strip they would recommend that looks decent? I normally use silicone flappers and bulbs from Conservation Resource Technology. I was thinking a bulb type set into the bottom edge of the top, to contact the outside top edge of the lower portion. I am worried about rain or snow getting trapped between the two doors. I have never done an exterior Dutch door before, any tips?

4/19/22       #2: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
RichC

Did the customer tell you why the Dutch door? Talk about a security problem! You going to put on two deadbolts?

4/19/22       #3: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
Matt Calnen

I know what your saying Rich, but these are going in what we call summer cottages, and apparently this is a new fad!
Security isn’t really an issue, they are both in private associations. Not saying someone couldn’t drive in and commit crime, but we tend to not worry to much about that in my town.
It’s the weather sealing that concerns me most. I’d like to find a good looking, well sealing one that will not trap water. It’s a T and M job, I just need to solve the details. Thanks for to input.

4/19/22       #4: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
David R Sochar Member

Website: http://www.acornwoodworks.com/book

Rabbet both doors, or add a glued molding to create a rabbet on each half. The upper door, inswing will have the long portion of its rabbet to the inside, and the lower half will have its rabbet to the outside. Some people think either door can be opened independently of the other. Not so. Open the upper alone or open both. There is a special Quadrant hardware designed for historic applications, but most people spec a slide bolt today, ignorant of the hardware precedent.

We would run either Q-lon or a 5/16" silicone bulb along each corner of the rabbets. We would warn or lecture a customer or designer if the door did not have adequate overhead protection, and make sure they knew that the door could leak water without adequate protection.

Dutch doors are discussed in my book on doors.


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4/19/22       #5: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
Tom Gardiner

I'm curious. Will these doors swing inwards or out? Do you bevel the horizontal planes down to the exterior by a few degrees?

4/19/22       #6: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
Matt Calnen

David, I did buy your book! I did read on the topic of Dutch doors, but I did not see anything about weather striping the mid joint. I am going to be making some plank doors in the near future, and I have heavily referenced that portion as that style of construction was new to me. Your quadrant hardware was also new to me. As a side note, I did what I call my apprenticeship in eastern Pennsylvania, just outside of Valley Forge. I rented a room in a mid 18th century stone farmhouse as I couldn’t afford a proper apartment at the time. One of the real cool features of the house was its Dutch door. I think it was original to the house, but it did have a forged throw bolt to connect the two half's! Don’t be so sure that quadrants were the original way to join the two. I do appreciate the weather stripping thoughts.

Tom, it is an in swing door. I will put a bevel on the top of the bottom half. I am just worried about driving rain getting trapped and wrecking havoc on the top of the bottom half of the door.

4/20/22       #7: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
David R Sochar Member

Website: http://www.acornwoodworks.com

Weatherstripping Dutch doors will be in Volume 2.

I think these doors came about as a means of animal control. Still today I see them used the same way.

I see the quadrant as the high-style hardware for the country gentlemen of the time. Those that had a more direct use of Dutch doors probably used first whatever was available, and a bolt of some sort certainly did the job.

4/22/22       #8: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
Mark B

"I think these doors came about as a means of animal control"

When the mere first step of controlling non-human access to your home was relegated to pedestrian traffic hahah. Chickens, goats, rats, bears, mice, racoons... Kinda like the invention of the wheel pre rim, tire, inflatable tire.

First step only to realize birds, mosquitos, locust, lizards and other that are not bound by the the laws of gravity...

Or the invention of screens. Next will be a Dutch door with a full and half exterior screen door.

4/25/22       #9: Exterior Dutch door weather strip ...
killersmile Member

great site i love it keep posting more!


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