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Freeborn insert cutters

1/29/21       
Ronnie Member

I am looking for input on freeborn cope and pattern insert cutters.

Their catalog lists a multi profile cutterhead 10-040 which accepts an ogee and several other profiles. My question is whether or not I can adjust the insert cutters to get a tight fit on my rail and stile joints. I really can't tell much from looking at the pictures in their catalog.

We've always used Freeborn braised cutters and have always been able to adjust the fit to compensate for any runout or whatever.

We bought a set of Byrd insert cutters, but have not been able to get a satisfactory fit with them. i spent the better part of two days playing with them checking runout, changing shapers etc.

The insert cutters sound good, but I've never had a problem with my Freeborn braised cutters. Should I fix something that isn't broke? Either way, I am staying with Freeborn.

Thanks,
Ronnie

1/30/21       #2: Freeborn insert cutters ...
Adam

The problem with brazed is once you sharpen them they are no longer a perfect match. The reality is you need .002” clearance for glue. The only person that has any idea that they are not correct is you. Unless it’s a lower cabinet door and you can see the joinery.

The inserts should be more or less perfect. By the time you wear them out but some new inserts.

Your adjustments to compensate for runout on a shaper is what? Other than changes the height, what else are you doing?

1/30/21       #3: Freeborn insert cutters ...
Karl E Brogger

As far as I have been told, all tooling is cut to a zero tolerance. If your spindle has zero run out, and is perpendicular to the table, you will not be able to get the joint together.

Even the best shapers have some.
Typically if too tight, you slip a knife to open up the tolerance.

I don't like brazed tooling just because of cost, and also for Adam's reasons. Inserts are cheap, I don't even bother sharpening them anymore. Amortizing it over a five hundred doors, and it's not much.


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