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8/18/17       
stephen Member

waterlox vs polyurethane on wood tops

8/18/17       #2: finishing wood tops ...
Tyler

For tops I either do an oiled finish for easy repairability, or I do a 2K polyurethane with a polyester undercoat for maximum depth and durability. It all depends on what my customer wants. Any film finish other than a 2k poly will result in issues down the road with water.

8/18/17       #3: finishing wood tops ...
Leo G

Regular plain jane polyurethane out of a can and brushed on is just as durable as a 2K. It's just not production based and you probably won't get as a nice finish with it. But as far as protection it's pretty tough stuff.

I also use a 2K poly, I don't have the ability to put down a polyester sealer, I use the 2K sealer.

8/18/17       #4: finishing wood tops ...
Tyler

I'm not talking about waterbased 2k poly, I'm talking about solvent based 2k poly, its worlds more durable than a waterbased/waterborne 1k or 2k polyurethane finish.

A 2 part finish will always perform better in the long run than a 1 part finish.

Thats the reason I opt to use a conversion varnish over a precat lacquer, and why i use a 2k urethane.

There is nothing wrong with the 2k sealer, I prefer the polyester only because i can get a higher build with it, and it does withstand to water a little better, although it is a more difficult process to follow.

8/18/17       #5: finishing wood tops ...
Leo G

I never said anything about waterborne. I rarely use them.

8/18/17       #6: finishing wood tops ...
Tyler

What brushable polyuerthane were you referring to? I don't know of any brushable polys that aren't waterbased

8/18/17       #7: finishing wood tops ...
Leo G

Varathane, Zar, Minwax, Old Masters, Duraseal, Masterline, Cabot....

8/18/17       #8: finishing wood tops ...
Nick

between the two finishes you mention l would say both would work equally well.
That said it would be easier to get a professional looking finish with the waterlox because it's a apply by brush, rag or sponge and wipe off finish method so no brush strokes but expect to apply 4-5 coats of waterlox to get the same look & build as 3 brush coats of poly.
The down side of either of these 2 finishes is the looong dry and recoat times especially when compared to some of today's high performance catalyzed finishes...CV & 2k poly.

8/19/17       #9: finishing wood tops ...
Tyler

Arent those all either waterborne or oilbased finishes?

8/19/17       #10: finishing wood tops ...
Leo G

Some could be waterborne, I wouldn't know. I don't use them. I'm just saying that oil base polyurethane out of a can brushed on is a tough finish.

8/19/17       #11: finishing wood tops ...
Tyler

Never said they aren't tough finishes, I just don't believe that they are tough enough

8/20/17       #12: finishing wood tops ...
Adam

The oil based poly is touch enough to finish floors. Its flexible and never really gets hard enough that you could buff it. The typical solvent used to be something slow drying like mineral spirits. Many of them now use something like naptha. It takes forever to dry. You can't do tack coats. It needs to be sanded really well between coats. That results in a cloudy appearance.

Interlux managed to make a poly marine varnish that solves most of those problems.

Not a friendly product for a cabinet shop.

Waterlox has a reputation for being a low maintenance durable finish. I've never used it. I've huffed & slathered plenty Watco oil. Nice look & nice feel if you buff it. Easy to renew.

8/20/17       #13: finishing wood tops ...
Matt Calnen

I started using Street Shoe wood floor finish for my wood tops that are going to be used and worked on. It's very tough(they use it for gym floors) and is relatively easy to sand and re coat onsite with if repair or rejuvenation is needed.

8/26/17       #14: finishing wood tops ...
Dan/drbwoodworks

We've been using Waterlox on all our wood tops for over 15 years. I had met the owner of waterlox at time and convinced me it was a superior product.
I have never had a call back and it's easy to coat and touch up if needed.
Although have been using ML Cambell Krystal with great results as well


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