CAM Toolpaths for Sweeping Out a Bowl Shape

      A CNC operator gets advice on programming his machine to scoop out a bowl in a butcher-block top. August 3, 2009

Question
I would like to route a bowl pattern into a butcherblock top. The pattern would be approximately 18'' diameter by 3/4 deep. It would give the look of an integrated bowl into the 1 1/2'' thick top. Is there shareware or free software to help me with this? My version of Mastercam only permits me 2-D nesting patterns.

Forum Responses
(CNC Forum)
From contributor M:
The best free software to make 3-D meshes, capable of exporting as .stl would be Blender. Open the software, press the spacebar to add mesh, select UVsphere. Press keypad (3) for side view, keypad (.) to center sphere to screen then (tab) key to enter vertex edit mode. Press (b) key for box select and drag a selection box around half of the sphere. Press (x) to delete and there you have a hemisphere. Next press the (s) key to scale, then (z) key to lock in the z axis. Adjust the scale to desired depth. Next, go to file menu, then export as .stl and you should have a bowl or dished out area ready to cut on the CNC. There are tons of great tutorials to get you going with Blender and a huge enthusiastic user base so support is never far away.



From contributor M:
The only FOSS CAM package I know of is pyCAM. I dabbled in it a bit and it ought to be able to do what you need. You'd need Python installed. Either d/l directly from SourceForge or use subversion by "svn co.


From contributor W:
Did you say you have Mastercam? I too have only the 2.5D Mastercam router software and yes you can make bowl shapes in it. It is in the wireframe toolpaths called 2-D swept.


From contributor J:
I believe this is what you are asking. I did this in aspire.


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From contributor I:
In Mastercam from a front view, draw one half of your bowl shape. Then from a top view rotate a swept surface about the center of the bowl using your "half-shape" as the "across" and a full circle diameter as the "along". Then use a finish flowline toolpath. You should get exactly what you want.


From the original questioner:
I have Mastercam 8.0 mill version, do you still think I can do 2-D swept toolpaths?


From contributor W:
If you go into the "wireframe" option in toolpaths and select 2-D swept and nothing pops up, like "not available in mill 8.0 version" or something about needing an upgrade then you should be fine.


From contributor B:
Your seat of Mastercam v8 Mill Entry does not have the wireframe toolpaths that contributor I and contributor W are referring to. You would need Mill Level 1 or the Router (L1) product.


From contributor V:
I'd like to know the G-code command and if my 3 1/2 axis Morbidelli Author 504 using Xilog3 is capable of this move.


From contributor W:
There is no special G-code to do the bowl shape, just x,y and z moves with a ball nosed endmill.


From contributor W:
Ok, sorry for this being so long, but here is sample code for this type of thing as a 1" diameter bowl going 1/4" deep with passes at .01".

N10 G71 HC=1 LY=1.000P PLPZ=0.500P PCSG=0.000P FIL=5 BLO=0 ACC=0 RUO=0 PRS=0 PRL=1 PDM=0 PUOS=0 PPWQ=0 KA=5 LZ=(PLPZ+PCSG) LX=1.000P PVER=1
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N20 Z=PRK
N30 PAN=1 ST1="RND1/2" ST2="NULL" ST3="NULL" L=PCUA
N40 G47 X0.303*25.4 Y0.000*25.4 TP1 PRF=-0.500*25.4 G40 L=PON M55 AX=X,Y,Z
N50 ZI0.596*25.4 G1 F4.0
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N70 XI0.606*25.4 R0.303*25.4 G5
N80 XI-0.006*25.4 G1
N90 ZI0.008*25.4 G1 F4.0
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N1490 L=POFF



From contributor V:
"There is no special G-code to do the bowl shape, just x,y and z moves with a ball nosed endmill." You're stepping it? I was hoping to learn a command for an arc in the z axis.


From contributor W:
Yes, the Mastercam 2-D swept toolpath will step it, as for arcs in Z that will look something like this.

N30 PAN=1 ST1="RND1/2" ST2="NULL" ST3="NULL" L=PCUA
N40 G46 X0.000*25.4 Y0.000*25.4 TP1 PRF=-0.100*25.4 G40 L=PON M55 AX=X,Y,Z
N50 X0.000*25.4 Y0.000*25.4 Z0.000*25.4 G1 F4.0
N60 X1.000*25.4 Y0.000*25.4 Z0.000*25.4 I0.500*25.4 J0.000*25.4 K-0.375*25.4 G9 F8.0
N70 ZI-0.100*25.4 G1 F4.0
N80 L=POFF



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