Paint Cracks at Joints in Five-Piece Doors
When we signed the contract it was understood and in writing that the doors would be 5 piece Maple, and this is what he wanted. We donít use particleboard or mdf to make anything. A couple of other cabinetmakers in the area that he talked to said they only do painted doors in mdf and that I should have made my doors out of 1 piece mdf.
My question is, are the hairline cracks acceptable with this type of cabinet and construction method? Is my customer just being too picky, or does he have a valid point? Please remember that he requested the 5 piece solid wood doors.
From contributor B:
If he wants plastic in his kitchen, that's what he should have ordered. Wood is not plastic and will not ever look like it. No matter how good the finish is when applied, over time the wood will move and create those hairline cracks, and thereís no way around it that I've ever seen.
The lesson is, always have or make a sample door to show the client exactly what they are getting. With one client who was concerned with the toughness of the finish, I went so far as to make up a panel for her to destroy. I told her to do everything you would normally do to a cabinet door and see how it holds up. Then do things you would never do to a cabinet door and see how it does. If, after that, you think the finish needs to be tougher we can look into other options.
The point is the more you can show the client exactly what he is getting, the better off you are. Your client wanted something he didn't fully understand. And it's always tougher to explain after the fact.
From contributor C:
I believe it is possible to build and paint well enough to stop the potential cracking. I built a large kitchen over one year ago. It was beaded inset faceframe with applied moulding doors. I sprayed it semigloss white with MLC Polystar. I had a look at it on Friday. No cracks in the faceframes, except the ones I created when they were installed. I used a lot of 1-1/2" wide beaded mullions. I would expect that joint to crack unless I used epoxy resin. Other than that the only visible cracks are between the applied moulding and the stiles and rails. There are no cracks in the stile and rail joints.
The moulding line cracked this winter, the day the owner cranked his super-duper heating system up to 90 degrees with no humidification, while trying to dry some tiling. I did not expect this kitchen to have so few cracks. It is one of the hardest spray jobs I've done or seen. I live in the Northeast and we have some of the worst temperature and humidity differences throughout the year.
Can a crack-free kitchen be fabricated? The answer is yes. Should the customer expect one? I would say no. I informed my customer that there would be cracking before we signed the contract. I guess I got lucky on that kitchen. I don't expect it to happen again for a few more years.
From contributor D:
I've made a compromise in that my 5 piece doors are solid except the panel, which is mdf. Cuts way down on the cracks between stiles and rails and the panel.
From contributor E:
I do a lot of painted kitchens with wood doors. I make a sample door of the selected finish and door style and on the back of the door is a disclaimer explaining that these hairline cracks are not a warranty issue. I have had jobs where there was no cracking in frames or doors, but it will happen. Maple is movement prone. I use soft maple.
From contributor F:
You could try two things. The first is to cut a small groove on the joint with a V point router bit and leave it. The second is to apply a very thin coat of auto body filler over the joint. Between coats of sealer and topcoat a bead of painters caulk around the panel will help things also. One last note - if you want a really high gloss finish with your painted cabinets try a white lacquer undercoat for sealer and then QD enamel for a topcoat. The only downside to the QD is that if you have to recoat the door you have to either do it wet, or wait 72 hrs.
From contributor G:
Whatís wrong with a solid mdf door? Anytime you have more than one joint, youíre going to have a slight seam that will eventually telegraph through the coating. A one piece mdf door or panel will take a beautiful finish and looks much nicer than plywood that has a painted finish. If you treat the end grain with a watered-down glue solution the primer will easily fill in the slight imperfections and will yield a keener finish than a five piece door made from poplar or maple.
From contributor H:
Most of the painted doors we finish (90%) do not crack on joints. Usually when they do it's due to poorly glued or constructed doors. For painted work mdf really is the best option though. No joints, no movement, no caulking, no grain.
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