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Microvelum with RouterCim2/8
Has anyone heard about the addition of RouterCim to MV to handle nesting and machining? Sounds like a solution to the weak true shape nesting and machining in MV, IF it is true.
Just finished watching the Roger Shaw webcast from the other day about RouterCim. From what I could tell, and I could be wrong(just ask my wife!!!) it is totally separate from MV, but it can nest the parts from their part files. Check out the video at: http://www.rogershaw.com/tired-poor-nesting-g-code-results/
I know the purpose of Woodweb is to contribute generally useful information and exchange ideas, and to not pitch products, but CADCode has been importing data from Microvellum (and other sources, including AutoCAD) and generating saw, p-t-p and nested results (including trueshape nesting) and parts labeling at the machine for years. At least compare your options if you're going in this direction.
Hmm....Maybe Roger Shaw is pushing Router Cim because they no longer sell Microvellum.
There is no addition of RouterCim to MV that I am aware of, that would be a VERY tall order. TrueShape nesting is a real improvement for Microvellum. However, RouterCim in conjunction with KOMO NBR’s is faster than Microvellum .
One way to combine the best of both programs is to set MV to generate DXF’s and then create rules in RouterCIM for those DXF’s. MV’s DXF layering convention is very predictable. However, with this method you still have to contend with losing MV’s automated labeling.
Yes, RSA is promoting RouterCim. Not because we are no longer representing MV, but because our current customers who are using MV V7 can benefit from a CAM solution that can deliver superior results. These results can drastically improve material yield, machine cycle time and tool life. It only makes sense if an MV customer is nesting alot of material. The true shape nesting out of RouterCIM is lights out better. Many MV users also us AutoCAD for their custom products. With RouterCIM, they can increase profit margins on MV jobs that they nest and they can grab the products that are produced from straight AutoCAD and process them, too! We continue to represent solutions to the woodworking industry and this particular solution is one that we feel has significant merit for our customer base.
While it would be an additional expense using routerCIM to do the nesting and machining would be a huge improvement to what MV has to offer. They seem to be totally bewildered by that end of the program.
"While it would be an additional expense using routerCIM to do the nesting and machining would be a huge improvement to what MV has to offer."
The only “Hugh improvement” RouterCIM offers is faster cycle times. However MV offers much more the RouterCIM to larger companies that don’t manufacture 100% millwork. I used to nest, with MV, about 300 cabinets a week with zero mistakes. At one point management, due to RouterCim faster cycle times, had another engineer do all the nesting with RouterCIM. Management quickly decided MV was the better solution because of the following. (1) They would need two RouterCIM operators (2) RouterCIM nests had a Hugh amount of reworks ( mainly because of human nature, if you make horrific amounts of calculations all day mistakes happen) (3) RouterCIM’s manual labeling offerings had a bad effect in the shop and installation.
Router-CIM can cut and nest the Microvellum Solids or their 2D drawing. There are many advantages that can be directly compared.
Router-CIM includes a fully integrated and customizable labeling solution right out of the box. CIM-Tech also offers an on-demand labeling program that prints labels right at the CNC.
Feel free to message me for your own Router-CIM demonstration.