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thick walnut veneer- crotch cut

5/28/15       
jake

i have a large desk to build that the arch specifies book matched crotch cut walnut slabs. with movement etc i was wondering if i could get the same look and feel with a "thicker" veneer as opposed to the standard thickness.
or am i barking up the wrong tree.
front of desk is like 11 feet wide by 3.5 feet high and she wants bookmatched.

5/28/15       #2: thick walnut veneer- crotch cut ...
John Van Brussel

Website: http://www.veneersystems.com

Hello Jake,

It would be very challenging to make this out of a solid and keep it flat. The beauty of a veneered panel is that you can engineer in stability. I don't think you could get the crotch in much thicker than 1/32" unless you resaw your own veneer.

I am assuming the desk is 11' long how wide is it?

John

5/28/15       #3: thick walnut veneer- crotch cut ...
John S  Member

Maybe I'm missing something, but the exposed surface of the veneer will look the same whether the veneer is 1/42" or 1/8" thick. I'm not sure what you are trying to achieve by going to thicker veneer.

I agree with John V that solid 4/4 crotch slabs will be problematic to say the least.

One "plus" for using "normal" thickness veneer is that when you book match across the face, the veneer will be much more consistent in appearance. When you book match 4/4 lumber, the each set of two leaves is very alike on their inside surfaces, but as you travel through the log, each successive set will be one inch (4/4) away from the set on either side of it. So instead of having a small variation from one book matched pair to the next, you will have the potential for fairly large variations. The thicker the slab (veneer or lumber) the more variation from one set of two to the next.

Personally, I wouldn't even offer to do it in lumber, it will be extremely costly, very risky and in my opinion, probably less aesthetically pleasing. That's where I'd step up and tell the architect, "this is what I what I can do ..." and then explain why, in detail. If the architect says "no", so be it, sometimes the best response is "Okay, good luck, thanks!"

5/29/15       #4: thick walnut veneer- crotch cut ...
John Costin

Under the best of circumstances -- good manufacturing, storage, etc... -- crotch veneer can be difficult to tame. In my opinion you are "going to the bank and borrowing trouble" if you try to use resawn crotch for bookmatched panels. How would you achieve the proper moisture content? Treat for pliability? Yield enough material with the proper appearance? Bookmatch (as John S pointed out)?

There is no need to reinvent the wheel.

John Costin
Veneer Services Unlimited
vsu@gwi.net
207-985-7221
Custom Veneered Components for the Woodworking Industry


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