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Fine tuning a table saw
8/1

I've been trying to tune-up my saw, it's a General Int Starshop wich I didn't know what I was buying at the time. I've had it for four years and never had a straight cut ! I posted a message not long ago saying that I had 1/2 mm difference from back to front of the blade and the response was that I could'nt bare this if I wanted to do joinery wich I agree. I have a job going and need to do just that; joinery, lots of it and until I change the saw I have to bear with it.
The trunnion bolts are tied to the the steel top and not to the cabinet so I loosened the 6 bolts but the thing doesn't budge at all. Know, I'm not even sure the miter tracks are machined straight. Can someone tell me what I can tune this saw and how I can spot check the whole thing to see what's straight and what isn't befor I take the machine apart and sell for spare parts ? Thanks
8/1 #2: Fine tuning a table saw ...

Website: http://www.curvedmouldings.com
The quick and simple is to make your fence parallel to the blade. This will solve your problem for ripping.
It will not however do anything to help with the miter slot alignment. For that you'll have to move the top on the bolts. My guess is you'll have to remove the top and drill all the bolt holes oversize. That will allow for some twisting to bring it all into alignment. I had to do this on a Delta contractors saw about 30 years ago.
BH
8/2 #3: Fine tuning a table saw ...

Website: http://www.turncent.com
Mike, give it up on it. It is a contractor saw, they have inherent design flaws that once aligned should never tilt. As nearly as I can figure it knocks it out when tilted. Try this simple test, spend about six hours aligning the blade with the miter slot, the fence is still aligned, make a rip, works great right, then tilt it to 45, make a rip, it will be out of parallel with the fence and your cut will either burn or wander, tilt it to 90 again, it will now be out of alignment. I think it is gravity. It is at this point you will say to yourself I will never buy a contractors saw again. The same goes for hybrids. the glove
8/2 #4: Fine tuning a table saw ...

Website: http://www.turncent.com
BTY b divies, I am not sure of delta contractors saws from 30 years ago but now they attach the trunnions to the underside of the table so moving the top only moves the top, doesn't effect the blade slot alignment. the glove
8/2 #5: Fine tuning a table saw ...

Well I think it costs money to learn. I'm gonna take your advice and give it up. I already spent more than six hours trying to figure out this machine. Thanks for the advice ! What would be a good tablesaw for production work where the the trunnions are attached to the cabinet and not to the top?
8/2 #6: Fine tuning a table saw ...

A whole lot of people will recommend the SawStop. You get a high quality saw with every imaginable adjustment built it for easy tuning.............plus the safety factor that doesn't exist on any other brand.
BH
SawStop
8/2 #7: Fine tuning a table saw ...

B.H. Are you talking about the new contractor or the original saw stop ?
8/2 #8: Fine tuning a table saw ...

Mike,
For me I'm talking about the original cabinet saw. However from what you were saying in your post I was thinking the contractor model may be adequate.
I haven't had my hands on one other than at the machinery shows but I completely trust the folks at SawStop to have duplicated the quality standards of the original in the new model.
I met the founders of the company back when the brake system was first developed and have stayed in touch with them over the years. I can tell you from first hand experience that this is a group of people that care every bit as much about the quality of their product as they do about the profitability of their company.
I will add that the brake system has saved hundreds of people from getting injured.......including one of the guys in my own shop.
BH
BH
8/2 #9: Fine tuning a table saw ...

Thanks for the advice everyone for the input.
8/5 #10: Fine tuning a table saw ...

I bought a used comercial saw stop and I have to say that customer service there is top notch. They bent over backwards to help me out. The saw is good quality and easy to adjust.
I had to try the test with the wiener, when I got finished with it too. lol
It performed as expected.
Kenneth
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