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Grain Filling stained wood10/29
I Have been lurking in the forum for a while but could not quite find a definitive answer to my question. The simplest way would be to first explain my finishing routine :
1-Sand wood Up to 120 grit
I came with this routine after many samples on scrap and it has given me great results (although not Always consistently but I suspect I am the cause rather than the finishing routine)
My question concerns the grain filling steps. From what I have read, people generaly seal before grain filling. My concern is that I need to sand VERY AGRESSIVELY to remove the excess timbermate wich means that stain/dye/sealer before grian filling is almost useless since I will sand through all those layers in no time.
I Have read that some people seal before so it makes the sanding easier and prevent the filler from staining the wood but will the dye be able to color the wood after the sealer. Maybe If I Apply a 5% washcoat than grain fill and sand aggresively that washcoat will be gone and I would be able to dye/stain with no problem. The wascoat would help sanding the filler but would be removed after sanding.
Overall I'm lost on this. If the best way is to continue to Apply the filler to bare wood I will do it but sanding the excess is PAINTFULLY long and can takes hours/days.
Are you trying to get a full filled black finish? You could tint the grain filler with 844 black tint. You could also blacken (ebonize) the wood, after applying the black wood filler, using black ink. I would then seal with polyester and top coat. If you are finishing in full filled black why not use a closed grain wood or MDF?
Thanks for your response but my question was regarding whether applying a wqscoat before the grain filler would help sanding it. will it also cause troubles when staining since the filler will be sanded very aggressively thus removing most of that wascoat
Do you know how to use a cabinetmaker's card scraper? Way faster with filler than sanding, and less chance of going too deep.
rich c....i love your response. also, to those who are unfamiliar with card scrapers, take time to learn more about these very valuable weapons for the finisher.