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how much would you pay?8/23
This is a 12" SCMI jointer. ~83" long w/ a 4 knife cutter straight knife head (I'll would get a byrd spiral aftermarket if I buy this) I have a 2 man shop and turn out custom cabs and some furniture. Been thinking of getting a grizzly, but Ive heard too many conflicting stories. Thanks for any input
Don't know what the going rate is for a 12" machine these days, but that machine used is worth as much as a new Grizzly to me. Never cared much for their machinery. In general, (as long as it checks out on inspection), you can't go wrong with the heavy SCM stuff.
After a good inspection with a quality straight edge, and it checked out, I'd pay up to $1000.
Thanks guys. Think i'll get a new Griz. Parts will be available for a long time.
What makes you think Grizzly parts will be available for a long time? They are just an importer, and have no control over production longevity. I swore off Grizzly machines after getting a horrible bandsaw, rebuilding it for a couple of weeks, and then getting them to accept a return.
Guess I just assumed as the company has been around as long as long or longer than I have been in business. To be fair, I had a felder bandsaw and slider combo shaper. Good reputation but both machines sucked for lack of a better adjective.
You are right, they have been around a long time, but I bet they don't have parts for machines they sold in the beginning.
I agree with Rich C. The SCMI is a far better machine - assuming it is in reasonable shape.
SCMI still has parts for some of their older things, and a jointer is so simple that you could only need bearings, belts, motor and some bolts. A machine shop at the very worst. All those are in the nearest large city. No need for one parts vendor that may or may not care about you and your machine.
Laguna was/is famous for trying to sell you a new machine if you called and wanted parts. The did not have any, and salesmen were required to answer the phones.
As I moved into better equipment over the years, I was surprised how much better the equipment ran. I loved the solid feel, the firm power, the easy adjustments and holding tolerances that better equipment gave with no effort on my part. I still love to run my big mortiser, and even the 25 yr old SCMI shaper is a joy every time.
He wants $2200 for it. I would switch out the head to a byrd (another $1300 and maybe a day of labor) and wire for 3 phase plug which the scmi is. The griz is $3070. w/spiral head 1 PH.
$3500 for a 3ph solid machine or $3100 for a 1ph question mark.
Kind of like $7000 for a custom build from an American cabinet maker or $5000 for IKEA......
I would take the old SCM over a grizzly any day. I to stopped buying grizzly stuff a while ago, except a small dust collector or two. Go with the SCM or keep looking for a Northfield, Yates, or Moak any of those three will last you a lifetime
Just curious why you think you would need to swap out the cutterhead? I know a lot of the hobby guys love those spiral heads, but I had one on a planer and can't say it was worth the money. Personally I would buy the machine and use it.
It's true that Grizzly makes cheaper machines, but do you really want a cheaper machine?
Check the bearings. We had an old SCMI back in the 90's that ate them by the year.
Also check the straightness of the fence & table. Sometimes the old iron will settle with a little twist.
Slop in the dovetails. Jointers can be fussy bastards to get dialed in when they get a bit worn.
The trick with used is no warranty. Once you own that used car it can also own you.