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cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood

2/9/15       
Ian Member

Just throwing it out there, does anyone have any input on using a 5 axis mill, such as a Haas to make stair fittings? 5 axis routers are pricey, so can anyone forsee any problems for using a machine such as this for making small parts?

2/10/15       #2: cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood ...
Mark T.

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Most Haas machines are trunnion style 5 axis not articulating head, so there would be fixturing considerations.
Most milling machines in general, including Haas, rely on mechanical fixturing so it would be incumbent upon you to retrofit to a vacuum set up if needed. This could be a big issue when using a trunnion style 5 axis with hoses and such ran to the trunnion.
Most milling machines rely on hydraulics which is a major departure from routers. Hydraulics leak over time, it is a fact. Product contamination could be an issue.
Spindle rpm may or may not be a factor cutting wood, I know they have some models equipped with 12~15k spindles.Haas makes a very good machine, often puzzled why they never fully exploited the router market? That said, in my opinion it is accuracy overkill and may be application limited for wood. Shopbot now makes an economical 5 axis but I do not know enough about it to recommend it.
Hope this helps!
Mark T.

2/12/15       #3: cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood ...
Al

The spindle rpm, as mentioned before, is a factor. Also tool size,weight and z-axis stroke are very important factors. I program a Heian Fanuc controlled 5-axis router for stair fittings and vacuum hold down is important but you can also use mechanical clamps just as well.

I've been to a company that was using an old Cincinnati Milacron CNC milling machine with a trunnion to make stair parts. It was not as fast but it worked for them for many years.

2/14/15       #4: cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood ...
Brian

at IWF last year I saw the DMS (Diversified Machine Systems) 5 axis in operation. A subsiduary of DMS is Freedom machine tool. I have their FMT 3 axis router and they are great to deal with.

2/15/15       #5: cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood ...
Ian Member

Well, it's not so much capability but price. Our shop is venturing into the realm of cnc router for the first time. We have two cnc copy lathes, but routers are more pricey, machine and software. A Haas machine is $100,000 less than routers we have been looking at, and the software is also more affordable and user friendly. We definately do not want to pick up a machine that will need G code written manually, helper software is a must.With the savings from that, we can also pick up a medium sized 3 axis router. Is spindle speed programmable on a Haas?
The main focus of this machine would be manufacturing 60 degree upeasings quickly.I'm assuming that unless your fixturing is near dead perfect, you would not get a correctly made part

9/9/20       #6: cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood ...
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What is a 5 Axis CNC Router?
5-axis machining involves all the axes of 4-axis machining, with an additional rotational axis. 5-axis milling machines are the best CNC milling machines available today, capable of creating precise and intricate parts for artificial bones, aerospace products, titanium pieces, oil and gas machine parts, car molds, medical, architectural, and military products. The 5th axis in the 5-axis milling machine is around the B-axis, which rotates around the Y-axis in the X-Y-Z plane. This multidimensional rotation and tool movement allows for B-axis unparalleled precision, finish and speed in the production of a piece. 5-axis machining can create very complex parts, which is why it is so important for high level uses, such as aerospace applications.

However, 5-axis machining is also becoming more popular because it offers the option for single-step machining (reducing lead time), allows better access to the part geometry, and improves the tool life and efficiency of the process by tilting the table for the ideal cutting position.

So which type of machining should you choose for your project? It all comes down to your unique requirements, budget, and timeline. For expert advice, talk with FORSUN 5 axis CNC router manufacturer to find the right match for your needs. FORSUN CNC also offers free 5 axes CNC router plans PDF for people who want to DIY 5 axis CNC router kit.

9/10/20       #7: cnc 5 axis vertical mill for wood ...
Ian

Thank you for your reply, but this is a very old thread, we have been running a 5 axis Holzher since 2017


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