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New CNC versus lightly used

1/27/16       
Jesse Fast Member

Website: http://www.countrysidecabinetshop.net

We are almost ready to purchase a CNC. We had been leaning toward a new Thermwood CS43 5x10, but I just found a Weeke 510 with only 200 hours. The question I have is: Do the advantages of a new CNC outweigh the $30,000 cost savings of a slightly used one? I realize that slightly used also means slightly out of date..

Also the setup and integration with a used machine might have it's difficulties?

Any ideas or opinions?

1/27/16       #2: New CNC versus lightly used ...
jerry Member

can you see the used one in operation. Is there any software that will come with it. for $30000 you can get a lot of training and I would find out if there is any warranty from Weeke.

1/27/16       #3: New CNC versus lightly used ...
B.H. Davis  Member

Website: http://www.curvedmouldings.com

If it is apples to apples and you are confident on the condition of the used machine there I say go with used. Two years down the road you won't know the difference from one to the other and you'll have saved a bundle.

Then I've always leaned towards used machinery as an economic alternative. But then I also enjoy learning the mechanics, operation and maintenance of a used machine and bringing it up to spec.

As to software etc. I've never considered CNC control software updates to be important other than to fix problems. CNC's are XYZ movement contraptions and making a machine move in 3 directions is not very complex in the computer world. It the control software worked when the machine was new it will continue to work until the machine is worn out.

If there is more to the software than just controlling the machine movement, and you are using those features, then an upgraded version could be very helpful. Since I do all my pre-control software work in AutoCAD and Enroute those are the software packages I might consider upgrading. There is no reason to upgrade my WinCNC control software to a more current version though.

BH Davis

1/28/16       #4: New CNC versus lightly used ...
Stuart

Make sure when figuring your equations you take into consideration all of the costs. You need to consider freight, installation costs, software, warranty, etc..

A $30,000 difference can go away quickly with a few parts to replace, freight costs as much as $5,000 and technician to install, software and training. These were all included with my CNC and they even gave us a two year parts warranty.

My guess is maybe a $10,000 savings when you consider all of that in a new vs used. Break that down over the life of the machine and it is nothing.

1/28/16       #5: New CNC versus lightly used ...
jerry Member

You may still have shipping and rigging along with some other costs on a new machine. Just because they say the shipping and setup are free doesn't mean it is free you pay for it some where. When I asked about software I was wondering if there is any design software

1/30/16       #6: New CNC versus lightly used ...
Gary B.

Jesse,

What is the Weeke? A vantech? Vantage? We have a 5 by10 vantech that I'm very pleased with. I would take a hard look at that Weeke. They are top shelf machines, with a great programming software directly at the controller. Many cncs don't have that capability.


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