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Priming Poplar Wood Trim

3/24/16       
Vic

Website: http://huwoodtrim.com

We run a moulding and trim shop. We dont finish or prime our trim, but I have a 15,000 Lin Ft job that requires priming. I'm concerned about curing time between priming and being able to stack it without sticking, so:

Whats the best primer to use for this that allows for a quick cure time?

Second, is space to do this, or space to stack it to cure/dry. We do have a empty dry kiln I can use to stack it and I can even turn on the heat if needed to speed up the drying/curing time. But I'm trying to come up with a workable system to stack the trim while it dries. Or some kind of rack system that is not too elaborate, that we can assemble and dissassemble after using.

Any ideas on what primer to use and and good ideas on a east-to-build rack for drying?

Thanks,

3/24/16       #2: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
kevin

in our mill department we have a makor spray line for our poplar trim/mouldings. we use Sherwin Williams waterbased acrylic millwork primer E60WJ518.
Drying (77°F, 50% RH):
To Touch: 5 minutes
To Handle: 15 minutes
To Sand: 30-40 minutes
To Recoat: 30 minutes
To Pack: overnight
Force Dry: Flash off time 5 minutes
3 – 5 minutes at 160 - 180°F
Good air movement and humidity control
are necessary for proper drying of water
reducible coatings.

We always stack the next day without problems.

As far as a DIY rack, look in the forum under shop built equipment.

There are some nice racks available from the advertisements on this site as well. The erecta-rack looks quite promising for your needs.

3/24/16       #3: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
chris

worth a look.

Erecta-Rack

3/25/16       #4: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
Vic

I think I've got it figured out. I will make a rack leg out of 2x4's and drill a 1.125" hole every 8" up the leg. I have a dowel cutting maching, so I will mill up a lot of 1" dowels and cut them to 5' for cross pieces to insert and lay the wet primed trim on. After stacking each layer, we will insert another dowel/layer for the next layer of trim and keep going up as far as we can reach.

Easy Peasy

3/27/16       #5: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
Mike Fuson

I use Chemcraft Aquaprime, dry time seems to be about like the primer mentioned above.
As far as stacking goes your idea seems to be a good one but the way I do it might be a little easier. We have a lot of carts on castors, made of 2X4s. I have a bunch of scrap pieces of plywood shot together in the form of a T. They are about 4' long I think. We lay a layer of trim on a cart after its primed. Put two of the plywood stickers between them(T-upside down) and then put two more crossways. This creates another rack that another layer can be placed on. Then you can repeat the process. Hope that makes sense? When we are done we stack those stickers on the shelf and they are out of the way until the next time we need them. Pretty good set up.

3/28/16       #6: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
Shane

We two have two Makor lines for spraying linear with the Makor brush head sanding machine in front of the line auto rack stackers and we use a Sherwin kemvar conversion varnish primer that sets up very quickly... we also have a force cure oven that deals with all the solvent stinking up the place...... before we did force dry we used the same Sherwin millwork primer as above with very good results and could stack within 24 hours..... now I can stack in two hours with force dry and solvent based coatings..

3/30/16       #7: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
kevin

spot on shane. we also have an auto racker on the backside of our makor. and just as you mentioned we have a profile sander on the front side. pretty slick set up. but dealing with catalyst and clean up is better left to our finishing department. the waterbase millwork primer is very easy for them to handle. we get it in 55 gal drums so all they have to do is drop the agitator in and purge the pump.
in our finishing department we run a cefla kleenspray and also use the kemvar primer surfacer. absolutely LOVE that product.

3/30/16       #8: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
Vic

Shane & Kevin,

Who would I contact, or how can I learn more about installing a line similar to what you guys have. Is it a turn key system or a hodge podge of different machines?
Thanks

3/30/16       #9: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
Shane

Contact stiles machinery they can sell you the whole package set it up train you and maintain the machine when needed

3/30/16       #10: Priming Poplar Wood Trim ...
Shane

Kevin I'd like to talk shop sometime with you! We are in the process of buying a flatline here at the shop... Just flew to Texas this week to look at a line... We have a uv roll coat line and we built a new shop for a flatline.. Just haven't nailed one down yet


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