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screw base cabinets to studs or not

12/20/15       
Thom

I was marking out the studs, shimming at those points and screwing a run of base cabinets to every stud I could get to easily when my employer told me to just toenail a screw into the drywall at each end of the run. I protested and he explained that with all the cabinets connected and countertop installed that they would not move.

12/20/15       #2: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
JeffD

I would never ever install cabinets in that manner, but it's my reputation I have to protect. If your boss says to do a half assed job then by all means go for it. It's not your reputation, it's not your liability, and he's the one signing the check!

good luck,
JeffD

12/29/15       #3: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Mark  Member

Jeff hit it- do like the guy signing the check wants- after all, when things go south, he'll have to pay you to do it again. FWIW, you were doing the job right.

1/10/16       #4: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Leo G  Member

Website: http://www.lrgwood.com

I'm screwing to the studs. Especially the end of the run cabinet.

1/11/16       #5: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Larry

We screw to the studs, maybe not every one.

1/11/16       #6: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Jeff M

What a dumbass.....What is he gaining by not having you secure the cabinets properly, a few minutes labor at the very back end of the job?? I don't understand how some people stay in business!

1/13/16       #7: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Tim G

Thom, you know what you need to do. Conscientious employees are not easy to come by, will always be valued in the market, and sleep well at night.

9/21/16       #8: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Hill Jeffrey  Member

Website: http://thehomerenovation.tumblr.com/post/149832331...

I totally agree with Jeff ! If your boss have told you to do it his way then he must have something in mind. Just go for it.

1/7/17       #9: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
Euroline Mike Member

Gentleman,
Have you ever seen a cabinet fall of a floor??
Of you build a AWI premium grade cabinet, set on a quality plywood toe properly shimmed at each cabinet side and back, and have screwed each base together with counter sunk screws ( 3front 2 back on one side) , and shim against wall issues, how many screws is necessary. In earthquake zones local building codes are the only guide. For all others it is not necessary to apply more than one toenailed screw
Per cabinet, regardless of the width. The method described was tested in house by using an eight foot run of cabinets assembled and then dropped off a platform from a four foot dock. Very fun day! They stayed together and no material damage.
Build a quality product and save money installing.

1/7/17       #10: screw base cabinets to studs or not ...
JeffM

Euroline Mike-- Did you read the original post?? Attaching a cabinet whether it's a base or an upper should be attached to solid framing period....not drywall on an angle. Of course the cabinet is not going to fall, but that isn't the issue with a quality install. The bases will move with door and drawer opening and closing, bumping into them ect. You say build a quality cabinet....why not follow it up with a quality install?? Offer an all around quality service, not just a product!


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